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Darüber sprechen Jan und Dennis mit Nico Martin, der in diesem Jahr nach Mountain View gereist ist.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"636\">Nico berichtet von seinen Eindrücken auf dem weitläufigen Google-Gelände, den großen Keynotes und den zahlreichen Möglichkeiten, direkt mit den Teams hinter Chrome, Gemini und anderen Google-Produkten ins Gespräch zu kommen.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp data-start=\"638\" data-end=\"1180\">Natürlich geht es auch um die großen Themen der diesjährigen Google I\u002FO. Die Runde diskutiert die aktuellen Gemini-Ankündigungen, den hohen Produktionsaufwand hinter den Keynotes und die Frage, wie viel davon wirklich neu war. Besonders spannend waren für Nico die Produkt-Demos vor Ort, darunter die neue Google-Brille, die er selbst ausprobieren konnte.\u003C\u002Fp>\n\u003Cp data-start=\"1182\" data-end=\"1720\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Außerdem werfen Jan, Dennis und Nico einen Blick auf die Rolle von Entwickler:innenkonferenzen im Allgemeinen. Sie vergleichen die Google I\u002FO mit Formaten wie der Google Cloud Next und den lokalen Google I\u002FO Connect Events und diskutieren, für wen sich ein Besuch lohnt.\u003C\u002Fp>","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.buzzsprout.com\u002F176239\u002Fepisodes\u002F19273327-spezialfolge-google-i-o-2026-aus-mountain-view.mp3","https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=fdeBLpQaaZI",{"id":15,"title":16,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":17,"filename_download":18,"metadata":19,"type":20,"filesize":21,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":22,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":23,"uploaded_on":24,"folder":8,"width":25,"height":25,"charset":8,"duration":8},"8deed9d8-e6ed-4758-aafb-cdd7c16576be","Generated Image May 29, 2026   4 10 Pm","8deed9d8-e6ed-4758-aafb-cdd7c16576be.jpg","Generated Image May 29, 2026 - 4_10PM.jpg",{},"image\u002Fjpeg","1853795","2026-05-29T14:11:24.100Z","11a655b6-bcfc-4c6c-a13c-68189e38edb9","2026-05-29T14:11:24.097Z",2048,[27],{"speaker":28},{"id":29,"slug":30,"academic_title":8,"occupation":31,"first_name":32,"last_name":33,"description":34,"event_image":35,"profile_image":45},"7521e8a2-e071-4a52-a247-c8a70fca0163","nico-martin","Machine Learning Engineer bei Hugging Face","Nico","Martin","\u003Cp dir=\"ltr\">Nico Martin ist Machine Learning Engineer mit Schwerpunkt WebML bei 🤗 Hugging Face und Google Developer Expert für AI und Webtechnologien aus der Schweiz. 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Beim täglichen Tischtennis ist er immer am Start und seit wenigen Jahren passionierter Kitesurfer. Mittlerweile ist er auch Vibe Coder mit Leidenschaft und überzeugt, dass seine Kolleg:innen AI unterschätzen. \u003C\u002Fp>",{"id":90,"title":91,"description":8,"tags":8,"location":8,"filename_disk":92,"filename_download":93,"metadata":8,"type":20,"filesize":94,"modified_by":8,"modified_on":95,"embed":8,"uploaded_by":8,"uploaded_on":96,"folder":8,"width":44,"height":44,"charset":8,"duration":8},"7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9","Dennis Becker","7a9fd72e-16b1-4283-8c1f-348a3e7986f9.jpg","dennis_becker_normal_01e352e682.jpg","45729","2022-01-16T14:26:35.196Z","2021-12-30T14:16:28.647Z",[],[],[],[101],{"first_name":32,"last_name":33,"profile_image":45,"slug":30,"description":34,"event_image":35,"academic_title":8},482,204,[],{"id":106,"service":107,"supported_features":108,"speakers":111,"raw_response":119},"dbe801d9-aca9-41cb-ae0d-b8becc47d791","deepgram",[109,110],"timestamps","diarization",[112,115,117],{"identifier":113,"name":114},"0","Jan",{"identifier":116,"name":85},"1",{"identifier":118,"name":32},"2",{"metadata":120,"results":134},{"transaction_key":121,"request_id":122,"sha256":123,"created":124,"duration":125,"channels":126,"models":127,"model_info":129},"deprecated","019e833b-e31b-7ee0-bae5-e8001cc2a919","593344c8bd4a301277a7aa9a67b744f9db6393259f217d4380ea5db46421edf0","2026-06-01T12:50:14.989Z",3014.0818,1,[128],"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3",{"91f8eabe-2126-4ed4-9e56-d480032309b3":130},{"name":131,"version":132,"arch":133},"2-general-nova","2024-05-09.3071","nova-2",{"channels":135,"utterances":25191},[136],{"alternatives":137},[138],{"transcript":139,"confidence":140,"words":141,"paragraphs":23604},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu einem neuen Special hier in der Programmierbar. Wir wollen mehr oder weniger tagesaktuell über die Google I o sprechen und einmal darüber sprechen. Wir haben ja schon inhaltlich darüber gesprochen in den News, aber wir wollen mal darüber sprechen, wie es so ist als Konferenz und deshalb bin nicht nur ich heute hier im Studio, der Jan für euch, sondern zugeschaltet aus der Saline außerdem. Der Dennis, hi. Und weil weder der Dennis noch ich persönlich auf der Google Eye O-Bahn, haben wir uns noch jemanden eingeladen, der natürlich vor Ort war und uns berichten kann, wie es gelaufen ist. Wir haben mal wieder den Nico Martin am Start. Hallo Nico. Hallo zusammen. Moin moin. Nico, ich hab gesagt, mal wieder, ich hab eben nachgeschaut, das ist jetzt deine vierte Podcastfolge bei uns. Wird wohl so sein, ja. Ja. Das also die die ironischerweise die Dritte, die die Leute zu hören bekommen, die Vierte, die wir schon aufgenommen haben, das wird dann in ein paar Wochen den den Leuten wirst Du noch mal auf die Ohren kommen. Aber damit bist Du fast an Platz 1 der programmierbaren MVP Liste vorgerückt. Wir müssen dich noch einmal einladen und dann ist vorbei sozusagen, da ist niemand öfter hier gewesen. Okay. Krass. Schaffste. Cool. Ja, ich glaub auch, das wird noch über kurz oder lang passieren und ich hab noch ein ganz besonderes Schmankerl dazu am Ende, aber das heben wir uns auf. Wir wollen nämlich erst mal sprechen über die Google IO und vielleicht, Nico, magst Du erst mal kurz erzählen, was ist die Google IO überhaupt und wieso warst Du da? Ja klar. Die Google I o ist eigentlich so, was kann man sagen, die Entwickler*innenkonferenz von Google. Also es geht vor allem drum, dass sie einmal im Jahr präsentieren können, an was sie so gearbeitet haben im letzten Jahr, was es für Neuerungen gibt und vielleicht auch 'n paar neue Announcement machen können. Jetzt in dem Fall viel, was im Gemini passiert ist und was für neue Produkte sie haben, was sie gerenamed haben und so weiter und so fort. Genau. Also, in dem Das ist doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch mal eine Frage, die ich doch noch mal Ja, okay. Also, in dem sie keine öffentliche Konferenz, sondern es geht halt per Einladung. Das heißt, wenn man eine Einladung von 'nem Googler oder von jemandem, der Einladung verteilen kann, bekommt, dann kann man dort hingehen und kostet in dem Fall dann auch nichts. Es gibt gar keine bezahlten Tickets? Ich glaube nicht. Also nicht, dass die öffentlich im Verkauf wären. Das wusste ich auch nicht. Ich dachte, dass das mehr so wie WWDC früher mal war, dass man halt für viel Geld, aber man kann da schon irgendwie hin, wenn man will, aber ist ja abgefahren. Nicht, ich hab die Google ja auch das erste Mal gehört, Was habt ihr denn Weder noch. Dazu gemacht früher? Ich war die Fabi und Sebi waren auf der Cloudnext, so wie Du jetzt auch. Ah genau, okay, ich dachte, ich hab dir gedacht. Aber ich würde grundsätzlich, mein WWDC ist ja son Ding, was tatsächlich auch 'n bisschen über die Apple Fanboy Kreise hinaus unbekannt ist, als halt irgendwie große Entwicklerkonferenz. Ich würde auch mal vermuten, dass die wahrscheinlich so sich etabliert hatte, bevor Google I0N Ding war oder? Ist Google I o irgendwie schon super alt? Also, weiß ich nicht, aber ich würde da, glaube ich, schon widersprechen und sagen, ich glaube auch die gut io ist son bisschen in der Mainstream Presse angekommen, weil ich hab jetzt auch im Nachgang zur letzten io dieses, wow, Google baut die Suche und alles wird irgendwie ganz anders und so, das war überall zu lesen irgendwie ne? Ja ja ja. Also das ist heute einen ähnlichen, vielleicht sogar größeren Stellenwert hat, ja. Ich meine nur so von der Historie. Weiß nicht, gibt ja nicht jetzt so viele also mittlerweile die großen machen das irgendwie. Also es gibt die WC von Apple, es gibt die Microsoft Bild heißt die glaube ich oder die Microsoft Konferenz. Es gibt die Google I o und keine Ahnung, wahrscheinlich kann man auch irgendwie sagen ABS, wie heißen die die? Gibt's auch so Days irgendwas, ne? Gibt's auch son eigenes Update? Es gibt das den ABS. ABS Summit und Summit und sowas, ja. Aber da gibt's doch eine große, die auch einen Namen hat. Das ist der ABS Summit dann? Nein, ist doch Reegnight oder? Reag Knight? Kann sein. Okay. Na ja, also ne so. Was gibt's da noch wann oder wer wer seid einigen Adobe, Max oder so Ja, Egal, ob's wieder Microsoft oder sowas. Aber das ist alles. Wir haben alle Veranstaltungen, aber wir wollen ja über Google sprechen. So, ja. So und okay, Du Du warst quasi auf Einladung da, Nico. Wer hat dich eingeladen und warum? Bei mir war's der Jason Mayas ausm Web AI Umfeld. Den kenne ich schon relativ lange und zwar auch nicht das erste Mal, dass ich eingeladen hatte, aber es war dann das erste Mal, wo es für mich Sinn gemacht hat, bis nach San Francisco zu fliegen für eine Konferenz. Genau. Und wie lange, also Du warst warst Du nur für die Konferenz da? 11 Stunden hin und zurückgeflogen für 2 Tage Event? Ja, kam ja leider, ja. Ich hab's Meine Planung war nicht optimal und das Problem war, dass es eher so eine Lastwende Entscheidung war. Ich hab mich, glaube ich, 2 oder 3 Wochen vor der Konferenz entschieden, jetzt doch zu gehen. Weil eigentlich dachte ich auch dieses Jahr wieder, nee, so lange fliegen, so weit reisen, für die paar Tage eher nicht. Dann hab ich mich aber umentschieden, weil zum einen klar die Konferenz, aber zum anderen ist ja auch so, dass ich bei Hackenface jetzt arbeite, seit letztem Oktober und ich seither meinen Teamkameraden gar nicht mehr gesehen hatte live. Wir haben es vorher mal getroffen gehabt, aber seitdem eigentlich nicht mehr und dann haben wir gedacht, es wäre doch ein gutes, ja, ein guter Event, uns mal wieder zu treffen und dann habe ich das halt Ja, es wurde auch eingeladen, also unabhängig von mir und deswegen haben wir das also als kleines Teammeeting mitgenommen. Ja und deswegen hatte ich auch nur 3 Tage. Das heißt, ich bin am Montag bin ich hingeflogen, dann waren 2 Tage Konferenz, ein Tag noch San Francisco und noch sone Io After Party und dann am Freitag schon wieder zurück. Okay, das klingt nach 'nem straffen Programm. Mhm. Was in den 3 Tagen hat dir besonders gut gefallen? Erst mal, ich fand die Konferenz ziemlich eindrücklich. Sie ist nicht riesig. Ich glaube, es sind zwischen fünf- bis 7000 Entwickler*innen werden erwartet oder werden jedes eingeladen. Was erst mal viel klingt, aber das die ganze Location ist halt riesig. Du hast diese großes Amphitheater, wo die ja Keynotes sind und so, aber rundherum ist einfach 'n riesen Gelände mit den anderen Stages, mit allem möglichen. Das heißt, es ist alles sehr weitläufig und ich hätte jetzt nie, hätte ich schätzen müssen, hätte ich gedacht, sind vielleicht so 2000 sowas, was halt wirklich alles so weitläufig ist. Eben die Größe hat mich überrascht und weiß es nicht, die Sessions Es waren nicht viel Neues, abgesehen von diesen großen Gemini Announcements natürlich, aber die finde ich persönlich jetzt nicht so spannend, weil für mich ist alles, was so im Web passiert oder auch in On Device oder Open Open AI. Sorry, nicht Open AI, sondern Open World Modellen. Das war ein Zeichen die Idee. Genau. Ist für mich halt spannender, aber da ist nicht viel Neues jetzt announced worden. Das waren mehr so Dinge, die schon länger bekannt waren, die sie jetzt noch mal zusammengefasst haben, was auch auch schön ist. Ja. Ist das in Googles eigenen Räumlichkeiten? Ich glaub, dieses Shore Line Amphitheater bin ich mir gar nicht sicher, aber ich hab es jetzt nur in Zusammenhang mit Google gesehen und es ist auch direkt neben diesem großen Google Visita Center. Und eben in dem Sinne keine Räumlichkeiten, sondern es ist alles eine große Fläche und dann hast Du halt diese Main Stage und dann überall sind große Zelte aufgestellt, wo die einzelnen Stages dann sehen, dass es okay, es gibt eine Cloud Stage, es gab eine AR Stage, es gab eine Android Stage, eine Chrome Stage und dann noch so kleinere kleinere Stände, wo zum Beispiel auch Waymo ihr neues Auto vorgestellt hatte und solche Sachen. Okay. Und das ist ja viel Autor, das heißt, die haben die einfach 100 Prozent Sonne, also oder ist einfach ausgeschlossen, dass da regnet zu der Zeit? Weiß ich nicht, also bei uns jetzt die Tage war es warm und sonnig, also fast schon zu warm. Ich nehme mal an, Sie rechnen ganz stark mit schönem Wetter. Ich weiß nicht, wie die Ja, ich, weil die frag mich immer bei diesem, weil bei dem Amphitheater, das sieht man ja auch immer in den Streams und so, frage ich mich immer, was würden die denn jetzt machen? Also haben die genauso einfach elendig große Location, wo die reinlaufen können und ob das ob das wirklich einfach so stabil ist das Wetter, dass man das absehen kann. Ich denke Zweiteres. Okay. Ich glaub auch Zweiteres und Sie würden im Zweifelsfall dann einfach einen Tag vorher noch mehr Pavillons dann wahrscheinlich über alles drüber spannen oder so was. Ja. Aber ja, ich mein, ich hab's mir eben grad noch mal auf der Karte angeguckt, es ist halt schon auch einfach Googles Vorgarten, so, ne. Also das ist schon ein Theater gehört nicht offiziell zu Google, aber alles drumherum halt eigentlich schon. Also im Zweifelsfall hätten Sie wahrscheinlich auch irgend eine Location in der Laufweite, wo Sie das notdürftig auch irgendwie unterbringen könnten, so. Weiß ich jetzt nicht, weil es ist halt schon viel. Also Sie haben alles, was Sie rundherum aufgebaut haben, das baut man nicht einfach mal schnell ab und baut's eine Woche vor einem anderen Ort wieder auf, denke ich jetzt mal. Ja. Ich ich hab's Ja. Eher das Gefühl, wenn in der Jahreszeit schlechtes Wetter wär, also wirklich richtig schlecht, dann, weil irgendein Unwetter oder irgendwas ist, wo sie sowieso dann kurzfristig absagen müssen. Keine Ahnung, wie sie's machen würden. Ich hatte jetzt auch, ich hab die die Keynotes hab ich eigentlich immer geschaut und ich wüsste jetzt auch nicht, dass jemals schlechtes Wetter gewesen wäre von dem her. Ja, nee. Also ich hab die Leute auch schon immer irgendwie im Showland Theater sitzen sehen, also seitdem sie's dann machen. Und es ist eher so, dass die Leute da hinschmelzen, wenn Du denen irgendwie zuguckst, wenn da mal son Kameraschwenk übers Publikum irgendwie kommt. Das war so lustig. Am ersten Tag ist ja erst die Keynote am am Vormittag und dann ab, ich glaub, 2 oder 3 ist die Developer Keynote. Und Du hast halt dieses Shorlin Theater hat sone große, ein großes Sonnensegel, aber gegen den Nachmittag Aber nur für die Sonne immer so. Also, oder? Ja, jein und am Morgen eigentlich für am Morgen ist eigentlich alles schön im Schatten. Aber je höher die Sonne ist oder je weit es nach hinten runterfällt, desto mehr, also Reihe für Reihe kommt halt die Sonne. Mal wirklich so gesehen, weil wir sind wir sind relativ weit vorne gesessen bei der Developer Keynote und haben wir wirklich so gesehen, alle 10 Minuten war die Sonne ein Reihe weiter und die ganze Reihe ist aufgestanden, hat sich irgendwo probiert, an den Rändern zu verteilen. Und dann, also bei uns war, war wirklich auch so, ah, weiß ich jetzt nicht, aber so mit Pullover übern Kopf und so ging's dann eigentlich und es war dann auch nur noch sone 20 Minuten, halbe Stunde haben wir gefunden, hey komm, das halten wir jetzt noch aus, weil im Schatten hat es keinen Platz mehr. Aber gerade der erste Tag war ultra heiß und hab ich auf jeden Fall genug Sonne abbekommen. Das ist schon immer so das Miese an diesem San Francisco Wetter, ne. Ich meine auch, also Mountain View San Francisco ist ja quasi klimatisch gleich. Dass es morgens halt doch schon immer so frisch ist, dass Du irgendwie doch 'n Pulli mitnehmen musst oder so oder Angst hast, eine Jacke mitnehmen zu müssen und mittags schmilzt Du einfach so dahin und dann brauchst Du abends wieder Schichten drüber. Ja und ich glaub im Silicon Valley speziell ist es noch mal 'n paar Grad wärmer als in San Francisco vorne. Ja, also Du bist ja eigentlich mehr Luft einfach dann auch, ja. Genau und Du bist vom Meer bist Du ja abgetrennt durch diese Hügelkette und dann hast Du einfach dieses eine Tal, weil einfach die Sonne rein rein brennt und San Francisco oben ist ja schön so an direktem Meer, direkt am Meer und da war's am letzten Tag eher sogar kühl. Und ist es so platzmäßig, wenn wir gerade noch bei bei der Keynote und den dem MP Theater sind, passen da alle rein oder muss man irgendwie möglichst früh da sein, gute Plätze zu bekommen? Wie fühlt es sich so an von der Fülle oder? Ich mein, Du hast gesagt, das sind nur 2000 Leute, als war es auch so, dass es sehr angenehm war, dass man das nicht irgendwie überfüllt war die ganze Zeit. Also es gab bei der Keynote, ich bin relativ knapp gekommen, weil ich hatte den Rush Hour 'n bisschen unterschätzt und hatte dann erst befürchtet, dass ich wohl bei der Keynote keinen Platz mehr finde. Aber gerade in den oberen Rängen hatte man eigentlich immer Platz. Das ist eigentlich, also auch in der Keynote hatte, hat es genügend Platz. Ja. Und von der sängenden Hitze, mal abgesehen, gab's irgendwas, was tatsächlich in der Kontrolle von Google lag, wo Du sagst, okay, das hätten sie irgendwie 'n bisschen besser organisieren können oder besser machen können während der Veranstaltung? Hey, ehrlich gesagt nicht. Also es war eher, ich war bei allem eher positiv überrascht. Also grad die Eingangskontrollen waren nie irgendwie Wartezeiten. Essensausgabe war einfach ein ellenlanger Tisch, wo überall eigentlich das Gleiche war und man konnte sich einfach einen sone eine Bowl mit was auch immer, so verschiedene Angeboten oder verschiedene Bowls im Angebot, kommen sie einfach einholen und es gab nie eine Schlange. Also eigentlich gab's bei nichts eine Schlange, außer in der Mitte von der Google Io ist son oder war son großer eine große Halle, 'n Riesenzelt, wo man neue Produkte testen konnte. Also zum Beispiel das Geney konnte man testen oder diese, wie heißt die, diese Google Brille, Mhm. Die jetzt dann, glaube ich, mal rauskommt, die Zusammenarbeit mit diesen beiden Designern Und dort musste man anstehen. Aber das war auch klar, weil es gab bei diesen Brillen, ich glaub, sie hatten 5 Brillen, die man testen konnte und jeder wollte sie halt testen. Und ich glaub, ich bin 20 Minuten oder so angestanden, aber was ich auch relativ kurzweilig angefühlt hatte. Ich wollte sagen, das ist jetzt auch noch nicht so schlimm irgendwie 20 Minuten und war Wie war die Brille? Spannend. Ich glaub nicht, dass es Das Problem ist, die Brille im Moment ist halt alles, was sieht auf visuellen Inputs. Heißt halt eine Kamera und Du hast die App auf deinem Handy und die App kommuniziert dann halt mit Germanine in der Cloud und so. Aber wenn Du irgendwas fragst, dann macht halt 'n Bild mit der Kamera, das Bild wird ausgewertet und dann sagt sie, was es gesehen hat. Also Du kannst dann fragen, hey, welche Bücher sind dort im Regal oder was auch immer? Und dann machst Du halt 'n Bild, wertet's aus und dann sagt's dir, gibt's ja Audio Feedback. Und das ist noch cool, weil Du hast im Bügel drin ist son Lautsprecher und das heißt, es geht nicht ins Ohr rein, sondern wirklich so neben dem Ohr wird das halt ausgegeben und man versteht wirklich gut auch in 'nem Raum, wo viele Leute sind, versteht man wirklich gut, was was die Brille einem sagt. Das Problem ist aber, weil halt alles auf visuellem Feedback basiert, hast halt immer die Kamera. Und ich hab ehrlich gesagt gefühlt, dass die Kamera der größte oder das größte Problem wird, wenn's drum geht, dass so in der Gesellschaft eine gewisse Akzeptanz für diese Brillen aufgebaut werden soll. Weil sobald Du halt mit der Kamera im Kopf rumläufst, ja, es hat 'n kleines 'n kleines Licht an der Seite, wo Du siehst, sobald sie aktiv ist, sieht jeder, okay, die Kamera ist aktiv. Von dem her, wenn das Licht nicht aktiv ist, dann sollte man auch davon ausgehen, dass keine Mittel aufgenommen werden und so. Aber ich habe das Gefühl, wenn Du mit 'ner Kamera rumläufst, dann es schreckt die Menschen Mitmenschen ab. Deswegen glaube ich nicht, dass das jetzt der letzte die letzte Iterationsstufe ist, die zum Durchbruch führt. Ich finde das mit dem Audio echt cool, aber ich glaube, was die Wahrnehmung angeht, müssen Sie oder sind Sie sicher schon dann neue Sachen ausprobieren, weil das mit der Kamera finde ich jetzt nicht so toll. Aber sonst so Look and feel, das ist auch nicht irgendwie schwer oder irgendwie unangenehm oder so. Also ist ja wirklich, sie sie sie ist nicht sie ist nicht schlecht. Und ehrlicherweise auch das erste Mal son bisschen ansehnlich, ja. Also wenn man sich das anguckt, was so Snapchat da gemacht hat oder Meta gemacht hat, da ist glaube ich, Warbie Parker hat schon irgendwie mehr, trifft mehr mein ästhetisches Empfinden als diese ganzen anderen Marken bisher irgendwie. Wobei die Wobei die jetzt schon auch 'n bisschen Bild aussieht. Ja, aber mit Robbie Parkcast hat so ein bisschen Mainstream schon irgendwie drin, so. Ja. Ja. Die, die ich getestet hab, die waren, das war so ein normaler Prototypen Frame. Also es war nicht die, die jetzt an den Verkauf geht. Und ich glaube auch, die, die jetzt in den Verkauf gibt, hat kein Display, wenn ich's richtig im Kopf hab, weil die, die ich probiert hatte, hat noch so im rechten Glas 'n Display, was auch Ja. Noch cool ist, weil das so 'n kleines Display war, wo die Informationen angezeigt werden können. So. Ja, das ist ja cool, weil da das das hätte ich auch bemängelt, dass das so fehlt, aber wenn's da zumindest 'n Prototyp mit gibt, dann vielleicht kann ja die zweite Iteration oder sowas das tun. Sie haben sogar, Sie hatten in der Kinot relativ klar gesagt, also es gibt die die Audio und die, also gab sogar Namen für für die 2 Sachen, die anderen kommen 'n bisschen später raus. Und Sie haben ja auch gesagt, dass diese 2 Modelle 2 sind von 1 großen Kollektion. Das hat man nämlich auch in der Folge dazu 'n bisschen kritisiert, dass es dann nur die 2 gibt, aber es soll auch praktisch dann zum Launch schon viele verschiedene Brillenmodelle geben und nicht nur die 2. Ah, okay. Ja, vielleicht muss man sich das doch noch mal anschauen. Ich bin noch Ich bin noch Kommt drauf kommt drauf an, was Spark dann noch so macht in der Zukunft. Gut, abseits von Brillen, die es wahrscheinlich, weiß gar nicht, Dennis, wird sie bei uns auch geben oder ist es wieder erst mal son kannst Du in Amerika kaufen Ding? Ich weiß es nicht, aber da ich zumindest Spark gerade angerufen habe, dass Du es auf gesagt habe. Ich weiß nicht, keine Ahnung. Ich glaub, es gab es gab's noch keine Informationen, aber es soll ja auch erst im Herbst in den USA kommen, von daher oder generell kommen, von daher. Gucken wir mal. Warten wir mal ab. Dann sprechen wir über andere Sachen, die vielleicht nicht so lange auf sich warten lassen. Welche Sessions haben dich noch besonders beeindruckt, Nico, oder fandest Du besonders interessant empfehlenswert? Ich fand jetzt nicht unbedingt vom Inhalt, aber rein von der ganzen Aufmache her, die Keynotes beide, also die Hauptkeynote und auch die Developer Keynote, die waren beide megagut, weil halt Man man gemerkt einfach, es ist enorm einstudiert. So die Slides, die Animationen in den Slides zusammen mit dem Speaker, der Speakerin. Das ist alles wirklich aus einem Guss und war wirklich mega faszinierend, wie sie das gemacht haben. Das fand ich echt cool und dann halt, weiß gar nicht, waren paar Sessions, also gerade die Jämmer Sessions, eine Session, die war so zu Jämmer 4 und eine Session war eher so zu generell on device mit mit Jemma 4, die fand ich auch spannend, weil sie halt mehr so in meinem Interessensbereich liegen. Aber wenn ich jetzt 1 picken würde, dann auf jeden Fall die Animation in den Slides. Mhm. Ja. Ist es so, ich glaub, das schreibt sich Google ja viel auf die Fahne, dass man oder was ja auch ein Sinn dieser Entwickler*innenkonferenzen ist, dass man so den Kontakt hat zu den Leuten, die die Sachen tatsächlich bauen. Hattest Du das Gefühl, dass dort viele Googler unterwegs waren und dass man auch die Möglichkeit hat, da mit denen zu sprechen? Ja, auf jeden Fall. Also es war so, dass eigentlich, Du hattest so außerhalb von diesen Produktboots waren überall Stände, wo halt die Leute, weiß es nicht, ob es die Entwickler*innen oder mehr so, die aus dem Deffrell waren, gesessen sind. Mit dem kommt man eigentlich voll, also waren war 'n super Austausch. Gerade bei beim Chrome Stand waren es auch Fall Leute, die ich schon kannte und da war es mehr so einen Wiedersehen so von Leuten, die ich sonst so aus der Community kenne. Aber gerade bei AI habe ich übrigens 'n Philipp kennengelernt. Also Sehr gut. Ich wusste natürlich, wer wer er ist aus dem aus dem Was programmierbar, aber ich hätte ihn jetzt noch nie noch nie mit ihm geredet. Ihn hatte ich per Zufall an seinem Stand dann kennengelernt, so wie auch sonst viele Leute, die ich über online immer wieder im Austausch war, die ich jetzt halt dann mal live gesehen hatte oder live mit Ihnen sprechen konnte. Interessant. Weil Du vorhin gesagt hast, wie wie wie polished diese Präsentation war. Ich hab dir auch beide gesehen, also sowohl die Keynote als auch die Developer Keynote. Und also ich glaube, man muss schon neidlos anerkennen, dass das alles sehr hohen production Value so hat, was sie da tun, aber ich tu mir da manchmal schwer oder andersrum, ich find's 'n bisschen schwierig manchmal beim Zuschauen, wenn so ein studierter Humor auf der Bühne ist. Also gerade, ich glaub in der Developer Keynote, als da Sunday auf der Bühne war, ganz am Anfang und dann mit seinen Nanobanana Bildern irgendwie rum gemacht hat, wo seine Hobbys gezeigt hat und wie er im Weltraum unterwegs ist, da irgendwie die Data Centers im Weltraum zu installieren und so. Ja, das ist schon lustig, Ja. Aber es wirkt halt son bisschen unlustiger, weil er halt genau diese 5 Sätze sagt, wo Du genau weißt, die hat ihm jemand irgendwie dazu mitgegeben und ist son bisschen unorganisch dann irgendwie rübergekommen. Am schlimmsten finde ich, wenn 2 miteinander eine Konversation haben, die eine studiert war son kleines sich necken auf der Bühne und Du weißt, die haben genau den Satz fünfzigmal gesagt. Und so einen, oh ja, und das war bei doch bei dir auch so. Gut, dass Du's sagst. Ja, es war nämlich genau, oh, komm schon. Ja. Oft sieht man ja irgendwo, findet man den Teleprompter, kann son bisschen abgleichen bei den orchestrierten Veranstaltungen da von denen. Ja. Ja, ich bin mir da nie so ganz sicher, ob das, also ich hab das auch schon oft auf Veranstaltungen gesehen, auch ehrlicherweise selber schon mal genutzt, ob das mehr so was ist, so was aus der Rechtsabteilung kommt so. Bitte, ihr steht vor vielen Leuten und bevor ihr hier irgendwie aufs Skript geht und irgendwas verratet, was vielleicht nicht gesagt werden soll oder vielleicht 'n Witz macht, der falsch interpretiert werden könnte oder so, haltet euch bitte einfach genau an diese Worte, ja. Oder ob das wirklich mehr so für die Leute ist im Sinne von, okay, ja? Es sind ja manchmal auch jetzt nicht irgendwie nur Deffrey Leute da, sondern manchmal auch ganz in Anführungszeichen normale Engineers, die halt das einfach vielleicht auch nicht gewohnt sind, irgendwie auf der Bühne zu stehen und vor Tausenden Leuten oder so zu sprechen, für die das halt wirklich hilfreich sein kann, ja? Keine Ahnung, was da das stärkere Argument irgendwie ist, wo das herkommt, aber ja, manchmal ist es schon sehr auffällig. Ja, na ja, ich glaube, weißt Du aber den ganz Großen, dann ist natürlich, geht's darum, dass jedes Wort sitzt. Ich meine, da wird jedes Wort dreimal umgedreht, welche Formulierung jetzt genau genutzt wird und wie und so weiter. Weiß nicht, ob das dann nur die Rechtsabteilung ist oder auch die Marketingabteilung, die sicherstellen möchte, dass genau diese Message drüber gebracht wird. Aber in der Regel ist auch je kleiner die Session, desto irrelevanter wird das. Also gehe mal davon aus, dass nicht jede jede der der der Sessions geskriptet war und mit Teleprom verlief. Ja. Glaube ich okay. Nicht klar normal. Gerade bei den kleineren Sessions im Chrome Zelt zum Beispiel, das waren einfach normale Talks. Ich weiß es, ich nehm mal an, die waren auch gescriptet, aber da war ganz sicher nicht jedes Wort vom Teleprompter abgelesen. Und ich denk grad bei den großen Keynotes, es hat es ist beides. Sicher die Rechtsabteilung möchte sicherstellen, dass die Worte sauber gewählt sind und dann nicht 'n vielleicht noch dazwischenkommt, was dann anders ausgelegt werden könnte. Zudem hast Du halt die Visuals mit den Worten so krass abgestimmt, dass ich das Gefühl hab, dass es wie alles alles so passieren muss wie geplant. Und dann, das merke ich auch bei mir immer wieder, dass Du einen Thema mit wenigen Worten aufn Punkt bringen kannst, ist halt da da hilft, wenn man sich das wie vorher überlegt hat und genau die Formulierungen hat und nicht einfach irgend 'n Stottern kommt und dann noch mal zurückgeht und denkt, ah, vielleicht könnte ich's noch so erklären, sondern wirklich so einfach den einen Satz zu dem Thema einfach runter rattern kann, so. Natürlich, das ist 'n Zusammenspiel aus Design, Marketing und Legal. Ja, wahrscheinlich, wahrscheinlich. Ist denn für dich der Networking Aspekt, den Du jetzt gerade genannt hast? Würdest Du sagen, das war der größte, Also deswegen bist Du hin und deswegen würdest Du auch wieder machen? Ja, auf jeden Fall. Ich mein, die Sessions sind ja alle online. Wenn's jetzt nur drum gehen würde, die Sessions anzugucken, dann kann ich's auch von zu Hause aus machen. Mhm. Aber Networking ist halt das Es ist ja bei jeder Konferenz so. Der Hallway Track ist der, der unter Umständen den meisten Mehrwert bietet oder weswegen Leute überhaupt an eine Konferenz gehen und das ist auf jeden Fall auch bei der Google IO der Fall. Ja, also grad, ich meine, ich komme ja viel, gerade in Europa bin ich ja viel unterwegs auf Konferenzen und lern viele Leute kennen und reden mit vielen Leuten, aber es sind halt dann noch mal Leute, die ich jetzt in Europa noch nie getroffen hätte oder vielleicht mal per Zufall, aber das sind halt an an einem Ort alle, die irgendwie was mit mit Jamma oder mit mit Chrome oder so, irgendwas zu tun haben. Das ist auf jeden Fall der Hauptgrund, wieso ihr wieder gehen würde. Und hat es irgendwie eine Art von, keine Ahnung, so Checkliste abgehakt, da soll man immer da sein, also wie fürs die Apple jünger irgendwie die WWDC ist, dass man sagt, oh, irgendwann will man nur da gewesen sein. Also jetzt glaube ich kleiner geringer geworden, seitdem das einfach nur noch gescriptete Videos sind und vor Ort nicht mehr so wahnsinnig viel passiert. Aber war es trotzdem auch so ein Aha Moment so die Bühne dann mal zu sehen, die Du sonst immer nur im Livestream gesehen hast? Ja voll. Also ja. Ich meine, ich kann das. Es ist ja immer was anderes, wenn Du dort bist und son bisschen die die die ganze So ein bisschen, weißt Du, wo ist was und wie sieht die Bühne überhaupt dann aus? Nicht nur im Fernsehen, sondern ja, ich meine, Du kannst zum Beispiel hinter der Bühne ist 'n großer son son Hügel, son Hang mit mit Rasen und das geht relativ weit hoch und Du kannst auch gut einfach auf dem Rasen setzen, wenn das nicht so heiß gewesen wäre. Könnte immer noch gut aufm Rasen sitzen und könnte von dort die Keynote verfolgen. Das sind alles Sachen, die siehst Du nicht, wenn Du es nur online verfolgst und es war schon cool, das mal gesehen zu haben. Aber ich finde jetzt Checkliste abhaken wär jetzt so, okay, habe ich gemacht, muss ich nicht mehr machen. Und das war's jetzt für mich nicht. Es war so wie, war cool, habe ich's mal gemacht. Also ja, Checkliste ja, aber ich würde auch wieder gehen. Also es ist jetzt nicht so, dass es nur dafür, dass ich's mal dort gewesen war, ist. Wir haben in der Folge über die Google Cloud Next son bisschen bemängelt, dass also es ist ja deutlich größere Veranstaltungen, irgendwie über 30, 35000 Leute, nicht im im Valley, sondern in in Las Vegas. Und haben son bisschen bemängelt, das was so bis als Gefühl fehlt, ist so dieses zu Gast bei Google zu sein, weil am Ende bist Du halt in sonem Casinohotel in der Messehalle. Auch viel coole Sachen, aber es fühlt sich halt nicht so an, ja. Als Du jetzt da warst, hattest Du das Gefühl, bei Google quasi zu sein oder war es immer noch mehr so, na ja, ich bin hier und Google halt irgendwie auch, aber wir treffen uns halt irgendwie auf diesem Gelände? Gutes Frau, was meinst Du? Ja. Ich wüsste jetzt nicht, was sie anders machen müssten, damit sie's mehr danach anfühlen würde, weil Also, es klar, es ist 'n Es ist es ist nicht im Google Headquarter oder so, aber Du bist halt direkt neben diesem großen Visitor Center. Was auch schon spannend ist, mal auch dort Missing durch durchzulaufen. Es hat alles mega Google Vibes, also ist jetzt nicht eben, ich denk, das Problem jetzt, ich weiß noch nicht an der an der Cloudnext, aber dort ist ja wirklich das Problem, Du bist in 'nem Hotel. Du bist irgendwo in 'nem in 'nem Fremden Gebiet, was nichts gegen Google zu tun hatte. Während dem Du jetzt bei diesem Shorline Areal Es ist im, sagen wir mal, neutrales Areal, was dann von Google in einen Google Areal umgewandelt wird. Also doch, man hat auf jeden Fall das Gefühl, hey, das man ist bei Google. Nicht im Office, aber ist auch schwierig für 7000 Leute, aber man das Branding ist da. Ja, okay. Das ist doch schon mal schon mal viel wert. Jetzt hast Du eben schon gesagt, es ist auf alle Fälle son son List item für dich, aber abgehakt ist es nicht, weil Du würdest noch mal hingehen. Das nimmt ja son bisschen schon die Antwort vorweg auf, kann man das empfehlen oder das hatte ich zumindest nicht komplett verschreckt, die Teilnahme da, ja. Wem würdest Du das denn da empfehlen? Also auch wenn jetzt nicht jeder dahin kann, weil man 'n Invite braucht oder so, aber für wen ist es denn überhaupt am Ende des Tages relevant? Ich ich hab's Gefühl, wenn man mit 1 von diesen Google Produkten arbeitet, also jetzt die Schwerpunkte waren ja AI, Android, Chrome, Cloud, genau, Dann macht's auf jeden Fall Sinn. Also, wenn man eine Einladung bekommt und mal die Möglichkeit bekommt, dorthin zu gehen, ich würd's jedem empfehlen, das zu machen. Wenn Du jetzt nicht zu tief im im Google Ökosystem drin bist, dann, weiß ich nicht, bringst Du glaube ich nicht so viel. Mhm. Aber da hast Du allein durch die Einladung hast Du schon eine Art Vorselektionierung, weil eben bei mir war es jetzt jedes Jahr immer wegen diesem Web AI. Da hat Google, weil dieses Jahr nicht so präsent, aber sie haben immer mal wieder eine eine Web Run Time für AI Modelle gehabt oder Milliliter Modelle gehabt. Und die war jetzt dieses Jahr nicht so präsent, aber es war immer auch da und dadurch habe ich auch die Einladung bekommen und weil da sowieso im Chrome Umfeld sehr viel mit mit AI passiert, Hat auf jeden Fall Sinn gemacht und wie gesagt, also wenn man in 1 von diesen Technologien tief drin ist, dann muss auf jeden Fall Sinn mal hinzugehen und die Leute kennenzulernen. Es gibt ja, da habe ich eben, vielleicht hast Du das auch verwechselt, Jan, gibt ja auch die Google I o Connect Events, was ja so ein bisschen ist, okay wie oder wo wo Google praktisch so Satellite Events macht in den verschiedenen Märkten noch, diese Experience dann 'n bisschen näherzubringen. Ich hatte gerade parallel noch mal in mein Handy geguckt. Ich bin nämlich gar nicht sicher, wie das dieses Jahr, ob das schon. Ich glaube in Berlin ist 1 Anfang Juni. Lockdown. Ja, Juli, dritter Juli, dritter Juli, wünsche ich das ja richtig sehen. Genau also ich war die letzten beiden Jahre war ich auf der war ich bei der Google AEOConnect und es hörte sich erstmal sehr ähnlich an. Also Du hast eine coole Location. Es war auch Sommer und heiß. Du hattest unterschiedliche Zelte, die diese 4 Tracks waren den unterschiedlichen Bereichen, die es von Google gibt. Es hat ein unfassbar starkes Google Branding. Also es gibt glaube ich wenige, für mich immer so die der Goldstandard, was irgendwie Eventorganisation angeht, Egal ob Catering oder ja, all das was Du auch gesagt hast, Einlasskontrolle und so. Das haben sie einfach wirklich sehr sehr gut drauf. Und eben dort auch viele Leute, die sie einfliegen, ne für die unterschiedlichen Themen. Wahrscheinlich nicht so ganz in krass wie wie es dann an der Haupt Google iOS ist, aber auch dort eben den engen Zugang zu allen wirklich Leuten, die wirklich an den an den Produkten arbeiten. Genau, das gibt's dann eben für den europäischen Markt in Berlin. Da gibt's, glaube ich, noch einen in Asien und eine in irgendwo anders. Vielleicht an der Ostküste noch was? Kann sein. Nur New York, New York, oder Washington oder so. Kann sein. Ja. Ich war leider noch nie an der Connect, die in Berlin ist, hat sicher schon das dritte Jahr, glaube ich. Und ich glaube, vor vor Corona war die ganze Google IO auch noch son bisschen mehr der Community Aspekt, weil ich weiß, ich bin ja noch Teil von diesem Google Liberable Expert Programm. Mhm. Und ich meinte, die, die schon länger dabei sind, haben gesagt, dass das früher auch son ziemlich son Meeting war für die ganzen GDIs. Und das haben sie nach Corona haben sie das komplett verkleinert, das heißt, als Gedie bekommst Du nicht automatisch eine Einladung, geschweige denken, dass da irgendwie eine Der Flug und die Reise gezahlt würde, aber Du hast auf jeden Fall Travel Support für die Connect Events. Wenn Du als GDD e irgendwo in einen anderen lokalen Io Connect Event gehen möchtest, dann kannst Du das und wird auch von von Google bezahlt. Und ich glaub, das war so die Idee, dass man irgendwie sagt, wir haben nicht einen großen Event, wo die ganze Community zusammenkommt in San Francisco, sondern wir machen halt auf der ganzen Welt noch kleinere Events, wo sich halt die lokalen Communitys treffen können. Und das sind dann die die Connect Events. Aber inhaltlich ist es ziemlich das Gleiche. Ich glaube, das sind die gleichen Booth und von den Googlern, weiß ich jetzt nicht, ich denke jetzt nicht an jedem Io Connect Event sind Ist das ganze Team da, aber auf jeden Fall sind aus dem Devirrell Team kommen auf jeden Fall viele. Ja. Dann, Dennis, lass uns doch noch einen Satz irgendwie darauf verwenden, Google io Connect. Wenn ich mich vorher schon mit der Google io beschäftigt habe, wie viel Neues höre ich denn dann noch auf der Connect? Wahrscheinlich, also heben Sie sich sowas auf oder ist das more of the same? Sie versuchen schon so 2, 3 Kleinigkeiten noch mal mitzubringen, die das 'n bisschen abfrischen, aber sie gehen aber schon eher auch da, also in den Vorbereitungsmaterialien oder Vorbreitungsmaterial in den in den in der Kommunikation, die Du vorher bekommen hast, war schon so, hey, guck dir mal zumindest mal die Keynotes und die wichtigen Sachen von der Google IO an. Also sie wollen es schon nicht als es ist genau der gleiche Inhalt und hier heißt sie nochmal, sondern Google IO ist die Basis und wir gehen jetzt nochmal ein bisschen spezieller in ein paar Themen rein. Also das ist schon so ein bisschen der Anspruch. Ich glaube jetzt die ganz großen Announces waren natürlich irgendwie trotzdem nicht da und das ist aber natürlich immer son Timing Geschirr, ne. Ich meine, wenn es zufällig, keine Ahnung, Gemmalight 3 5 in die Woche fällt, wo sie sowieso releasen wollen, dann nehmen sie vielleicht auch so eine Bühne dann gerne nochmal mit. Und und enaucen das dann. Ich glaub zum Beispiel Jamma 3, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, war Thema bei der Google io Connect in Berlin und wurde mehr oder weniger zeitgleich released. Kann's ungefähr sein, Nikoko kritisch. Kann kann gut sein, ich weiß die Daten jetzt nicht mehr so. Nicht mehr so. Ja. Aber ja. Genau. Wär's ja spannend zu sehen, ob sie quasi vom Produktionsvorlauf quasi, ob sie son bisschen Input von der großen IO quasi mitnehmen und schauen euch immer, was hat die Leute interessiert, wo müssen wir vielleicht auch noch mal Messaging nachschärfen oder so was, ne. Und das dann quasi da noch mal detaillierter anbieten oder ob sie sowieso so oder so viel Vorlaufzeit haben, dass bis die io in Mountain View rum ist, die io connects schon alle soweit in der Vorbereitung sind, dass das dann gar nicht mehr mit einfließen kann. Falls Du noch mal auf die io connect gehst, dieses Jahr, das kannst Du ja mal nachfragen. Ich bin super verwirrt. Ich ich sehe gerade, findet ihr irgendwas, ich bin ja jetzt nur am Handy, findet ihr irgendwas online? Ich hab irgendwie, ich hab im April, ich bin nicht multitaskingfähig genug für so was. Ich hab im April eine E-Mail, also wenn ich mein E-Mail-Programm jetzt gerade nicht falsch verstehe, hab ich mich registriert. Und zwar würde sie stattfinden am fünfundzwanzigsten Juni und zwar in Berlin. Also ich hab eine ich hab eine Einladung bekommen. Und wenn ich da jetzt auf den Link klicke, das ist das, wenn ich mich auch meine, dann ist tatsächlich auch schon son bisschen, dass dort steht, hey, from Google I o. Also das ist so der der Startpunkt praktisch. Und dann guck mal, was es noch auf der auf der Session Agenda noch weitergibt. Ja. Für mich ist es halt so, ich glaube jetzt für den einen Tag würde ich nicht unbedingt nach Berlin fahren zu Google Air Connect. Ich hatte das in den letzten Jahren verbunden ja mit diesem Google Devapaladvisory Report, was am Tag vorher auch stattgefunden hat. Aus der Gruppe habe ich jetzt dieses Jahr noch nichts gehört, aber ich glaube deswegen hatte ich mich schon mal registriert, wenn das wieder zusammenfällt, ich da dann auch hingehen kann. Ja, weil für son Zweitages Event war es dann okay, aber für einen Tag ist wahrscheinlich für mich die andere Reise ein bisschen weiter. Also ich glaube, Sie haben mir gar nicht so viel Content, dass Sie an jeder Io Connect was komplett Neues noch releasen könnten. Und ich fand jetzt auch 'n paar Sachen waren sehr early Stage, jetzt gerade die Brillen. Ich meine, wenn man's jetzt ankündigt, dass eventuell im Oktober dann die Ersten in den USA verschifft werden, ist halt so. Ja. Also, ja. Ist ist relativ früh, dass man das announcen möchte und ich denk, dann dann müssten sie ja jetzt noch weiter nach vorne was announcen. Ich weiß nicht. Ich finde auch die Cloud Next und die Google I o relativ nah zusammen. Mhm. Und es wurde auch für Google dann schwierig, sich zu überlegen, ja, wo möchte man was announcen? Es würde viel mehr Sinn machen, wenn sie im Frühling 1 von beiden machen und dann im Herbst vielleicht noch eine, ja der, ah, ich hab's grad vergessen, Cloud Next. Oder Ja, die Audience ist halt schon schon unterschiedlich, aber ich glaub trotzdem wär's auch, wie Du sagst, ne, trotzdem wär's besser, das son bisschen aufzurennen. Allein aus medialer Sicht für sie ist halt mehr Aufmerksamkeit in der Summe, wenn Du's son bisschen weiterstrecken kannst, als wenn es jetzt innerhalb von, ich glaub, sind jetzt 6 Wochen oder so gewesen, ja, wo da halt beide Events stattgefunden haben und auch wenn das eine jetzt irgendwie mehr für Infrastruktur und bla und das andere mehr für, ich sag mal, Entwicklerendkunden sozusagen vielleicht gemacht ist, ja. Ja, könnte man könnte man noch besser teilen. Genau, aber zu Google Eye Connect vielleicht noch mal. Ich glaube, das ist ein kostenloses Event, zu dem man sich anmelden darf. Also es gibt eine Waitlist und unter anderem meine ich, dass Student innen immer relativ stark gefördert wurden, dass sie einfach dahin kommen können, dann wie Du schon gesagt hast, diese ganzen Google Communities, Developerer Experts Gruppen, die sich da auch treffen. Und das fand ich zumindest auch immer ganz gut. Weil ich hab da schon relativ viele Kontakte und Einblicke so bekommen. Also für mich war Netzwerken da auch ein großes Ding. Ja. Und ich glaub, die sind auch kostenlos, oder? Es gibt keine Möglichkeit, ein Ticket zu kaufen. Das wär auch so, entweder man geht eingeladen oder man kommt auf die Waitlist. Ja. Genau. Aber da kannst Du dich zumindest, ich weiß nicht, ob das bei der Google ja auch so ist. Du kannst dich aktiv praktisch bewerben und dich auf die Weltliste setzen lassen. Ja, Mensch, da musst Du die Programmierer doch auch mal irgendwie mehr bewerben. Ja, ja. Wie gesagt, ich bin registriert, also falls Du Wir könnten, ich könnte da schon hin. Aber wie gesagt, ich ich weiß noch nicht sicher, ob die ob dieses andere Event gleichzeitig stattfindet. Aber das ist ja auch für unsere Hörer ja nicht so relevant, was ich da mache. Außer, dass das gibt. Vielleicht für die in Berlin, die wollen sich vielleicht auch mal treffen, keine Ahnung. Ja. Gerne. Mit dem Stammtisch oder sowas. Gerne. Gut, ich hab hier meine Liste fast komplett abgearbeitet. Dennis, hast Du noch Fragen an Nico? Nee, aber wer wollte gerade was sagen, der Nico? Nee, ich hab nur geatmet. Okay, muss ich muss ich ab und zu auch falsch seid ihr seid ihr gestattet hier. Ich hab noch eine Frage und die Hörerin da draußen werden sich jetzt denken, wieso fragt ihr das und wenn ihr die nächste Folge mit Nico gehört habt, werdet ihr wissen, warum ich das frag. Nico, Du bist ja jetzt verreist, so Ja. Nach Amerika, so. Hast Du bestimmt auch son paar elektronische Geräte dabei gehabt? So, jetzt weiß er schon, warum Ja. Was mit was hast Du denn so aufgeladen und wie lief das so unterwegs? Also, ich weiß jetzt nicht, was ich schon spoiler und was nicht, aber Ist okay. Ich hab in der letzten Folge, die wir aufgenommen, die jetzt dann bald erscheinen wird, habe ich als Pick off the day einen, was ist denn so ein Mehrfachstecker für USB, USB Geräte aufladen zu können, gebracht. Turnsout, eine oder 2 Tage, nachdem wir die Aufnahme gemacht haben, ist mein ist der kaputtgegangen. Oh, das heißt nicht ganz besondere Blick auf den 11. Okay, es war so random. Aber ich hab mir 'n neuen gekauft und wir haben ja noch drüber diskutiert, was jetzt besser ist, ob mehr Watt oder weniger Watt. Der Neue, die ich gekauft habe, ist klein, eine andere weniger Watt. Heißt mein MacBook Pro lädt nicht supersuper schnell. Aber ich hab mir deinen Tipp zu Herzen genommen und gesagt oder gedacht, lieber einen kleineren, bin ich dann einfach, wo ich's über Nacht eingesteckt und ich meine, das ist lädt auch so. Also ist nicht so, dass ich, dass ich stundenlang warten muss. Aber wenn Du das eben oder volle Last hast, passt das ja auch. Genau. Lieber kaufe ich ein kleineres Netzteil, wo ich dann halt über Nacht das MacBook aufladen kann und das hat sich bewährt lustigerweise. Also vielleicht muss ich meine alles alles, was ich jetzt mal gesagt habe, einfach rausschneiden. Stimmt nicht. Kaufe eher lieber ein kleineres mit weniger Watt und das läuft auch gut. Also, die Aufklärung für den Dennis zu machen, der sich, glaube ich, grade fragt, was zum Henker das ja alles soll. Der Running Gag war eigentlich, dass Nico jedes Mal, wenn er bei uns im Podcast ist, der 'n Pick of the day mitbringt und immer in der nächsten Folge dann dazu noch mal eingeladen wird. Also zuerst war er Mhm. Der erste Podcast mit Nico war zu WordPress. Pick of the day war son PWA Thema. Hat er 'n Podcast mit uns gemacht über PWAs. Da war sein Pick of the day Transformer js. So, dann haben wir mit ihm eine Folge gemacht über Transformer js. Das ist die, die jetzt dann auch bald rauskommt. Und da hat er gesagt, okay, diese Kette zu brechen, ja, ist jetzt ist jetzt quasi sein Pick, was worüber wir nie widersprechen werden, nämlich dieses Netzteil, so, ja, und hat dann quasi dieses Ladegerät als Pick of the day gehabt und ich wollte einfach nur diesen Run aufrechterhalten und noch mal ganz kurz über dieses Netzteil sprechen und offensichtlich hat sich das gelohnt. Ja. Hast Du das für den Pick of the day? Dann könnten wir nicht das doch noch mal, ja genau. Hey, ich hab ich hab's vergessen. Nein, das gibt dem Special Aber nee, das war alles gut. Alles gut. Alles gut. Jetzt hätte ich dich vorgewarnt. Gut. Ja. Wunderbar. Nachdem ich auch diese kritische Frage losgeworden bin, hat meine Liste dann endgültig erschöpft. Nico, hast Du noch was, was Du unbedingt erzählen wolltest und dich keiner danach gefragt hat? Ja, vielleicht. Wir haben im Vorgespräch kurz drüber geredet, Waymo. Ja, unbedingt, unbedingt, ja. Genau. Ich bin ja, ich war das erste Mal im Silicon Valley und deswegen auch zum ersten Mal mit Waymo unterwegs und die sind die sind krass. Das muss man vielleicht für 'n paar Leute noch erklären, Ja. Die noch nicht mit Waymo gefahren sind wie wir. Ja, Waymos sind diese selbstfahrenden Autos. Das sind diese Jaguar, was ist sone Art Jaguar Offroader, bisschen was Größeres. Ja, son ist ja Und die sind halt mit diesen, was ist das, Lyar oder irgend so? Sensoren ausgestattet und das coole ist, das ist wie Uber, Du hast eine App, kannst sagen, hol mich bitte dort ab, ich möchte gern dorthin, dann berechnest dir einen Preis, der ist 'n bisschen intransparent, aber ja, bekommst einen Preis, sagst, ja, ich möchte gern abgeholt werden und 'n paar Minuten später fährt halt 'n 'n 'n 'n fahrerloses Auto vor. Und ich hab halt so ich ich das ich das stand auf jeden Fall auf meiner Bucketlist für für San Francisco und deswegen auch meinen ersten, direkt, als ich von der Vanue zum Hotel gefallen bin, habe ich mir halt son Waymo bestellt. Und es ist schon das Ding surreal das erste Mal, wo man da aufm Beifahrersitz sitzt. Man sieht links neben sich, er ist Lenkrad, was sich bewegt. Du siehst vorne auf dem Display siehst Du genau, was er gerade sieht, welche Route er nehmen möchte, was wirklich Es ist Ich ich habe mich megagesicher gefühlt. Es war aufm Komfort her über die App, eben Du sagst, wann er entriegeln soll, wann er losfahren soll. Das ist alles. Es ist die Experience ist megagut. Und dann auch im direkten Vergleich mit Uber, was halt wirklich so, Hab ich vorher schon gesagt, die Pressstruktur ist bisschen schwierig, weil die gleiche Strecke kostet mal 10 Dollar, mal 35 Dollar, also wirklich so völlig random und auch nicht tageszeitabhängig, so wie ich's jetzt gesehen hatte. Und deswegen werden trotzdem auch mal auf Uber ausgewichen. Und bei Uber ist halt schon so wie beim Taxi auch. Je nachdem, was Du für einen Fahrer eine Fahrerin hast, fühlt man sich halt dann auch weniger sicher. Also jetzt nicht, also rein, was die Verkehrslage angeht und wie sie sich durch den Verkehr schlängeln, fühlt man sich halt dann auch sicherer oder weniger sicher. Und bei Waymo ist es halt wirklich super. Die fahren schon sehr konservativ, muss man sagen. Ja. Ja. Ja. Das auf jeden Fall Das das ist mein Pick of the day, wenn's Das wollte ich sagen, wenn das jetzt sein Pick of the day ist, dann bin ich gespannt, was die nächste Podcastfolge wird. Oh nee. Ja, vielleicht müssen wir doch noch mal Nee, nee, ich mach schon so was für Folge machen. Ah ja, genau. Muss vergessen. Ja, das Kit Projekt, ah, da finden wir schon noch was, aber Ja. Wie gesagt, die eine Folge, die Du dann noch brauchst für die für die Top 3, die kriegen wir auf jeden Fall noch. Mhm. Wunderbar. Dann bleibt uns, glaube ich, nichts anderes zu sagen, außer danke Nico, dass Du dir Zeit genommen hast und uns erzählt hast, wie's so in San Francisco war oder in Mountain View. Ich muss sagen, mich hast Du son bisschen gecatcht. Ich hätte jetzt auch gerne eine Einladung für nächstes Jahr. Mal gucken, wen ich da bestechen kann, dass das funktioniert. Es waren relativ viele Tech Influencer dort. Also von dem her, es gibt wohl Wege über irgendwie Öffentlichkeitsarbeit, was auch immer an Tickets zu kommen. Hast Du hast Du mich gerade Influencer genannt jetzt? Weißt Du, ob ich nicht beleidigt fühle. Also 3 3 Zentimeter gewachsen oder? Sag sag Du, ist es eine Beleidigung, dann habe ich es nicht gesagt, ist es eine ist 'n Kompliment, dann habe ich es gesagt, ja. Alles klar. Also ganz Alter ist 'n Kompliment. Okay. Wunderbar, dann danke Nico, danke Dennis. Wir hören uns bald wieder und wenn nicht, sehen wir Nico spätestens auf der Programmiercon wieder bei uns im November. Auf jeden Fall. Mach Gott. Tschau, tschau. 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0: Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu einem neuen Special hier in der Programmierbar. Wir wollen mehr oder weniger tagesaktuell über die Google I o sprechen und einmal darüber sprechen. Wir haben ja schon inhaltlich darüber gesprochen in den News, aber wir wollen mal darüber sprechen, wie es so ist als Konferenz und deshalb bin nicht nur ich heute hier im Studio, der Jan für euch, sondern zugeschaltet aus der Saline außerdem.\n\nSpeaker 1: Der Dennis, hi.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und weil weder der Dennis noch ich persönlich auf der Google Eye O-Bahn, haben wir uns noch jemanden eingeladen, der natürlich vor Ort war und uns berichten kann, wie es gelaufen ist. Wir haben mal wieder den Nico Martin am Start. Hallo Nico.\n\nSpeaker 2: Hallo zusammen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Moin moin.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nico, ich hab gesagt, mal wieder, ich hab eben nachgeschaut, das ist jetzt deine vierte Podcastfolge bei uns.\n\nSpeaker 2: Wird wohl so sein, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Das also die die ironischerweise die Dritte, die die Leute zu hören bekommen, die Vierte, die wir schon aufgenommen haben, das wird dann in ein paar Wochen den den Leuten wirst Du noch mal auf die Ohren kommen. Aber damit bist Du fast an Platz 1 der programmierbaren MVP Liste vorgerückt. Wir müssen dich noch einmal einladen und dann ist vorbei sozusagen, da ist niemand öfter hier gewesen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay. Krass.\n\nSpeaker 1: Schaffste.\n\nSpeaker 2: Cool. Ja, ich\n\nSpeaker 0: glaub auch, das wird noch über kurz oder lang passieren und ich hab noch ein ganz besonderes Schmankerl dazu am Ende, aber das heben wir uns auf. Wir wollen nämlich erst mal sprechen über die Google IO und vielleicht, Nico, magst Du erst mal kurz erzählen, was ist die Google IO überhaupt und wieso warst Du da?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja klar. Die Google I o ist eigentlich so, was kann man sagen, die Entwickler*innenkonferenz von Google. Also es geht vor allem drum, dass sie einmal im Jahr präsentieren können, an was sie so gearbeitet haben im letzten Jahr, was es für Neuerungen gibt und vielleicht auch 'n paar neue Announcement machen können. Jetzt in dem Fall viel, was im Gemini passiert ist und was für neue Produkte sie haben, was sie gerenamed haben und so weiter und so fort. Genau.\n\nAlso, in dem\n\nSpeaker 1: Das ist doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch\n\nSpeaker 2: doch doch doch\n\nSpeaker 1: doch doch doch\n\nSpeaker 0: doch doch doch\n\nSpeaker 2: doch doch doch doch doch\n\nSpeaker 1: doch doch doch doch doch\n\nSpeaker 2: doch doch doch doch doch mal eine Frage,\n\nSpeaker 1: die ich doch noch\n\nSpeaker 2: mal Ja, okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also, in\n\nSpeaker 2: dem sie keine öffentliche Konferenz, sondern es geht halt per Einladung. Das heißt, wenn man eine Einladung von 'nem Googler oder von jemandem, der Einladung verteilen kann, bekommt, dann kann man dort hingehen und kostet in dem Fall dann auch nichts.\n\nSpeaker 1: Es gibt gar keine bezahlten Tickets?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaube nicht. Also nicht, dass die öffentlich im Verkauf wären.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das wusste ich auch nicht. Ich dachte, dass das mehr so wie WWDC früher mal war, dass man halt für viel Geld, aber man kann da schon irgendwie hin, wenn man will,\n\nSpeaker 2: aber ist ja abgefahren. Nicht, ich hab die Google ja auch\n\nSpeaker 0: das erste Mal gehört, Was habt ihr denn Weder noch. Dazu gemacht früher?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich war die Fabi und Sebi waren auf der Cloudnext, so wie Du jetzt auch.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ah genau, okay, ich dachte, ich hab\n\nSpeaker 1: dir gedacht. Aber ich würde grundsätzlich, mein WWDC ist ja son Ding, was tatsächlich auch 'n bisschen über die Apple Fanboy Kreise hinaus unbekannt ist, als halt irgendwie große Entwicklerkonferenz. Ich würde auch mal vermuten, dass die wahrscheinlich so sich etabliert hatte, bevor Google I0N Ding war oder? Ist Google I o irgendwie schon super alt?\n\nSpeaker 0: Also, weiß ich nicht, aber ich würde da, glaube ich, schon widersprechen und sagen, ich glaube auch die gut io ist son bisschen in der Mainstream Presse angekommen, weil ich hab jetzt auch im Nachgang zur letzten io dieses, wow, Google baut die Suche und alles wird irgendwie ganz anders und so, das war überall zu lesen irgendwie ne?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja ja ja. Also das ist heute einen ähnlichen, vielleicht sogar größeren Stellenwert hat, ja. Ich meine nur so von der Historie. Weiß nicht, gibt ja nicht jetzt so viele also mittlerweile die großen machen das irgendwie. Also es gibt die WC von Apple, es gibt die Microsoft Bild heißt die glaube ich oder die Microsoft Konferenz.\n\nEs gibt die Google I o und keine Ahnung, wahrscheinlich kann man auch irgendwie sagen ABS, wie heißen die die? Gibt's auch so Days irgendwas, ne? Gibt's auch son eigenes Update? Es gibt\n\nSpeaker 2: das den ABS. ABS Summit\n\nSpeaker 0: und Summit und sowas, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber da gibt's doch eine große, die auch einen Namen hat. Das ist der ABS Summit dann?\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, ist doch Reegnight oder?\n\nSpeaker 1: Reag Knight?\n\nSpeaker 0: Kann sein.\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay. Na\n\nSpeaker 1: ja, also ne so. Was gibt's da noch wann oder wer wer seid einigen Adobe, Max oder so Ja,\n\nSpeaker 0: Egal, ob's wieder Microsoft oder sowas. Aber das ist alles. Wir haben alle Veranstaltungen, aber wir wollen ja über Google sprechen. So, ja. So und okay, Du Du warst quasi auf Einladung da, Nico.\n\nWer hat dich eingeladen und warum?\n\nSpeaker 2: Bei mir war's der Jason Mayas ausm Web AI Umfeld. Den kenne ich schon relativ lange und zwar auch nicht das erste Mal, dass ich eingeladen hatte, aber es war dann das erste Mal, wo es für mich Sinn gemacht hat, bis nach San Francisco zu fliegen für eine Konferenz. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und wie lange, also Du warst warst Du nur für die Konferenz da? 11 Stunden hin und zurückgeflogen für 2 Tage Event?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, kam ja leider, ja. Ich hab's Meine Planung war nicht optimal und das Problem war, dass es eher so eine Lastwende Entscheidung war. Ich hab mich, glaube ich, 2 oder 3 Wochen vor der Konferenz entschieden, jetzt doch zu gehen. Weil eigentlich dachte ich auch dieses Jahr wieder, nee, so lange fliegen, so weit reisen, für die paar Tage eher nicht. Dann hab ich mich aber umentschieden, weil zum einen klar die Konferenz, aber zum anderen ist ja auch so, dass ich bei Hackenface jetzt arbeite, seit letztem Oktober und ich seither meinen Teamkameraden gar nicht mehr gesehen hatte live.\n\nWir haben es vorher mal getroffen gehabt, aber seitdem eigentlich nicht mehr und dann haben wir gedacht, es wäre doch ein gutes, ja, ein guter Event, uns mal wieder zu treffen und dann habe ich das halt Ja, es wurde auch eingeladen, also unabhängig von mir und deswegen haben wir das also als kleines Teammeeting mitgenommen. Ja und deswegen hatte ich auch nur 3 Tage. Das heißt, ich bin am Montag bin ich hingeflogen, dann waren 2 Tage Konferenz, ein Tag noch San Francisco und noch sone Io After Party und dann am Freitag schon wieder zurück.\n\nSpeaker 0: Okay, das klingt nach 'nem straffen Programm. Mhm. Was in den 3 Tagen hat dir besonders gut gefallen?\n\nSpeaker 2: Erst mal, ich fand die Konferenz ziemlich eindrücklich. Sie ist nicht riesig. Ich glaube, es sind zwischen fünf- bis 7000 Entwickler*innen werden erwartet oder werden jedes eingeladen. Was erst mal viel klingt, aber das die ganze Location ist halt riesig. Du hast diese großes Amphitheater, wo die ja Keynotes sind und so, aber rundherum ist einfach 'n riesen Gelände mit den anderen Stages, mit allem möglichen.\n\nDas heißt, es ist alles sehr weitläufig und ich hätte jetzt nie, hätte ich schätzen müssen, hätte ich gedacht, sind vielleicht so 2000 sowas, was halt wirklich alles so weitläufig ist. Eben die Größe hat mich überrascht und weiß es nicht, die Sessions Es waren nicht viel Neues, abgesehen von diesen großen Gemini Announcements natürlich, aber die finde ich persönlich jetzt nicht so spannend, weil für mich ist alles, was so im Web passiert oder auch in On Device oder Open Open AI. Sorry, nicht Open AI, sondern Open World Modellen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das war ein Zeichen die Idee. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ist für mich halt spannender, aber da ist nicht viel Neues jetzt announced worden. Das waren mehr so Dinge, die schon länger bekannt waren, die sie jetzt noch mal zusammengefasst haben, was auch auch schön ist. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ist das in Googles eigenen Räumlichkeiten?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaub, dieses Shore Line Amphitheater bin ich mir gar nicht sicher, aber ich hab es jetzt nur in Zusammenhang mit Google gesehen und es ist auch direkt neben diesem großen Google Visita Center. Und eben in dem Sinne keine Räumlichkeiten, sondern es ist alles eine große Fläche und dann hast Du halt diese Main Stage und dann überall sind große Zelte aufgestellt, wo die einzelnen Stages dann sehen, dass es okay, es gibt eine Cloud Stage, es gab eine AR Stage, es gab eine Android Stage, eine Chrome Stage und dann noch so kleinere kleinere Stände, wo zum Beispiel auch Waymo ihr neues Auto vorgestellt hatte und solche Sachen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay. Und das ist ja viel Autor, das heißt, die haben die einfach 100 Prozent Sonne, also oder ist einfach ausgeschlossen, dass da regnet zu der Zeit?\n\nSpeaker 2: Weiß ich nicht, also bei uns jetzt die Tage war es warm und sonnig, also fast schon zu warm. Ich nehme mal an, Sie rechnen ganz stark mit schönem Wetter. Ich weiß nicht, wie\n\nSpeaker 1: die Ja, ich, weil die frag mich immer bei diesem, weil bei dem Amphitheater, das sieht man ja auch immer in den Streams und so, frage ich mich immer, was würden die denn jetzt machen? Also haben die genauso einfach elendig große Location, wo die reinlaufen können und ob das ob das wirklich einfach so stabil ist das Wetter, dass man das absehen kann.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich denke Zweiteres. Okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich glaub auch Zweiteres und Sie würden im Zweifelsfall dann einfach einen Tag vorher noch mehr Pavillons dann wahrscheinlich über alles drüber spannen oder so was. Ja. Aber ja, ich mein, ich hab's mir eben grad noch mal auf der Karte angeguckt, es ist halt schon auch einfach Googles Vorgarten, so, ne. Also das ist schon ein Theater gehört nicht offiziell zu Google, aber alles drumherum halt eigentlich schon. Also im Zweifelsfall hätten Sie wahrscheinlich auch irgend eine Location in der Laufweite, wo Sie das notdürftig auch irgendwie unterbringen könnten, so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Weiß ich jetzt nicht, weil es ist halt schon viel. Also Sie haben alles, was Sie rundherum aufgebaut haben, das baut man nicht einfach mal schnell ab und baut's eine Woche vor einem anderen Ort wieder auf, denke ich jetzt mal. Ja. Ich ich hab's Ja. Eher das Gefühl, wenn in der Jahreszeit schlechtes Wetter wär, also wirklich richtig schlecht, dann, weil irgendein Unwetter oder irgendwas ist, wo sie sowieso dann kurzfristig absagen müssen.\n\nKeine Ahnung, wie sie's machen würden. Ich hatte jetzt auch, ich hab die die Keynotes hab ich eigentlich immer geschaut und ich wüsste jetzt auch nicht, dass jemals schlechtes Wetter gewesen wäre von dem her.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja,\n\nSpeaker 0: nee. Also ich hab die Leute auch schon immer irgendwie im Showland Theater sitzen sehen, also seitdem sie's dann machen. Und es ist eher so, dass die Leute da hinschmelzen, wenn Du denen irgendwie zuguckst, wenn da mal son Kameraschwenk übers Publikum irgendwie kommt.\n\nSpeaker 2: Das war so lustig. Am ersten Tag ist ja erst die Keynote am am Vormittag und dann ab, ich glaub, 2 oder 3 ist die Developer Keynote. Und Du hast halt dieses Shorlin Theater hat sone große, ein großes Sonnensegel, aber gegen den Nachmittag\n\nSpeaker 0: Aber nur für die Sonne\n\nSpeaker 2: immer so.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also, oder?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, jein und am Morgen eigentlich für am Morgen ist eigentlich alles schön im Schatten. Aber je höher die Sonne ist oder je weit es nach hinten runterfällt, desto mehr, also Reihe für Reihe kommt halt die Sonne. Mal wirklich so gesehen, weil wir sind wir sind relativ weit vorne gesessen bei der Developer Keynote und haben wir wirklich so gesehen, alle 10 Minuten war die Sonne ein Reihe weiter und die ganze Reihe ist aufgestanden, hat sich irgendwo probiert, an den Rändern zu verteilen. Und dann, also bei uns war, war wirklich auch so, ah, weiß ich jetzt nicht, aber so mit Pullover übern Kopf und so ging's dann eigentlich und es war dann auch nur noch sone 20 Minuten, halbe Stunde haben wir gefunden, hey komm, das halten wir jetzt noch aus, weil im Schatten hat es keinen Platz mehr. Aber gerade der erste Tag war ultra heiß und hab ich auf jeden Fall genug Sonne abbekommen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist schon immer so das Miese an diesem San Francisco Wetter, ne. Ich meine auch, also Mountain View San Francisco ist ja quasi klimatisch gleich. Dass es morgens halt doch schon immer so frisch ist, dass Du irgendwie doch 'n Pulli mitnehmen musst oder so oder Angst hast, eine Jacke mitnehmen zu müssen und mittags schmilzt Du einfach so dahin und dann brauchst Du abends wieder Schichten drüber.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja und ich\n\nSpeaker 2: glaub im Silicon Valley speziell ist es noch mal 'n paar Grad wärmer als in San Francisco vorne.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, also Du bist ja eigentlich mehr Luft einfach dann auch, ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau und Du bist vom Meer bist Du ja abgetrennt durch diese Hügelkette und dann hast Du einfach dieses eine Tal, weil einfach die Sonne rein rein brennt und San Francisco oben ist ja schön so an direktem Meer, direkt am Meer und da war's am letzten Tag eher sogar kühl.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und ist es so platzmäßig, wenn wir gerade noch bei bei der Keynote und den dem MP Theater sind, passen da alle rein oder muss man irgendwie möglichst früh da sein, gute Plätze zu bekommen? Wie fühlt es sich so an von der Fülle oder? Ich mein, Du hast gesagt, das sind nur 2000 Leute, als war es auch so, dass es sehr angenehm war, dass man das nicht irgendwie überfüllt war die ganze Zeit.\n\nSpeaker 2: Also es gab bei der Keynote, ich bin relativ knapp gekommen, weil ich hatte den Rush Hour 'n bisschen unterschätzt und hatte dann erst befürchtet, dass ich wohl bei der Keynote keinen Platz mehr finde. Aber gerade in den oberen Rängen hatte man eigentlich immer Platz. Das ist eigentlich, also auch in der Keynote hatte, hat es genügend Platz.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Und von der sängenden Hitze, mal abgesehen, gab's irgendwas, was tatsächlich in der Kontrolle von Google lag, wo Du sagst, okay, das hätten sie irgendwie 'n bisschen besser organisieren können oder besser machen können während der Veranstaltung?\n\nSpeaker 2: Hey, ehrlich gesagt nicht. Also es war eher, ich war bei allem eher positiv überrascht. Also grad die Eingangskontrollen waren nie irgendwie Wartezeiten. Essensausgabe war einfach ein ellenlanger Tisch, wo überall eigentlich das Gleiche war und man konnte sich einfach einen sone eine Bowl mit was auch immer, so verschiedene Angeboten oder verschiedene Bowls im Angebot, kommen sie einfach einholen und es gab nie eine Schlange. Also eigentlich gab's bei nichts eine Schlange, außer in der Mitte von der Google Io ist son oder war son großer eine große Halle, 'n Riesenzelt, wo man neue Produkte testen konnte.\n\nAlso zum Beispiel das Geney konnte man testen oder diese, wie heißt die, diese Google Brille,\n\nSpeaker 1: Mhm.\n\nSpeaker 2: Die jetzt dann, glaube ich, mal rauskommt, die Zusammenarbeit mit diesen beiden Designern Und dort musste man anstehen. Aber das war auch klar, weil es gab bei diesen Brillen, ich glaub, sie hatten 5 Brillen, die man testen konnte und jeder wollte sie halt testen. Und ich glaub, ich bin 20 Minuten oder so angestanden, aber was ich auch relativ kurzweilig angefühlt hatte.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich wollte sagen, das ist jetzt auch noch\n\nSpeaker 2: nicht so\n\nSpeaker 0: schlimm irgendwie 20 Minuten und war Wie war die Brille?\n\nSpeaker 2: Spannend. Ich glaub nicht, dass es Das Problem ist, die Brille im Moment ist halt alles, was sieht auf visuellen Inputs. Heißt halt eine Kamera und Du hast die App auf deinem Handy und die App kommuniziert dann halt mit Germanine in der Cloud und so. Aber wenn Du irgendwas fragst, dann macht halt 'n Bild mit der Kamera, das Bild wird ausgewertet und dann sagt sie, was es gesehen hat. Also Du kannst dann fragen, hey, welche Bücher sind dort im Regal oder was auch immer?\n\nUnd dann machst Du halt 'n Bild, wertet's aus und dann sagt's dir, gibt's ja Audio Feedback. Und das ist noch cool, weil Du hast im Bügel drin ist son Lautsprecher und das heißt, es geht nicht ins Ohr rein, sondern wirklich so neben dem Ohr wird das halt ausgegeben und man versteht wirklich gut auch in 'nem Raum, wo viele Leute sind, versteht man wirklich gut, was was die Brille einem sagt. Das Problem ist aber, weil halt alles auf visuellem Feedback basiert, hast halt immer die Kamera. Und ich hab ehrlich gesagt gefühlt, dass die Kamera der größte oder das größte Problem wird, wenn's drum geht, dass so in der Gesellschaft eine gewisse Akzeptanz für diese Brillen aufgebaut werden soll. Weil sobald Du halt mit der Kamera im Kopf rumläufst, ja, es hat 'n kleines 'n kleines Licht an der Seite, wo Du siehst, sobald sie aktiv ist, sieht jeder, okay, die Kamera ist aktiv.\n\nVon dem her, wenn das Licht nicht aktiv ist, dann sollte man auch davon ausgehen, dass keine Mittel aufgenommen werden und so. Aber ich habe das Gefühl, wenn Du mit 'ner Kamera rumläufst, dann es schreckt die Menschen Mitmenschen ab. Deswegen glaube ich nicht, dass das jetzt der letzte die letzte Iterationsstufe ist, die zum Durchbruch führt. Ich finde das mit dem Audio echt cool, aber ich glaube, was die Wahrnehmung angeht, müssen Sie oder sind Sie sicher schon dann neue Sachen ausprobieren, weil das mit der Kamera finde ich jetzt nicht so toll. Aber sonst so Look and feel, das ist auch nicht irgendwie schwer oder irgendwie unangenehm oder so.\n\nAlso ist ja wirklich, sie sie sie ist nicht sie ist nicht schlecht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Und ehrlicherweise auch das erste Mal son bisschen ansehnlich, ja. Also wenn man sich das anguckt, was so Snapchat da gemacht hat oder Meta gemacht hat, da ist glaube ich, Warbie Parker hat schon irgendwie mehr, trifft mehr mein ästhetisches Empfinden als diese ganzen anderen Marken bisher irgendwie. Wobei die Wobei die\n\nSpeaker 2: jetzt schon\n\nSpeaker 1: auch 'n bisschen Bild aussieht.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, aber mit Robbie Parkcast hat so ein bisschen Mainstream schon irgendwie drin, so.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Die, die ich getestet hab, die waren, das war so ein normaler Prototypen Frame. Also es war nicht die, die jetzt an den\n\nSpeaker 0: Verkauf geht.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und ich glaube auch, die, die jetzt in den Verkauf gibt, hat kein Display, wenn ich's richtig im Kopf hab, weil die, die ich probiert hatte, hat noch so im rechten Glas 'n Display, was auch Ja. Noch cool ist, weil das so 'n kleines Display war, wo die Informationen angezeigt werden können. So.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, das ist ja cool, weil da das das hätte ich auch bemängelt, dass das so fehlt, aber wenn's da zumindest 'n Prototyp mit gibt, dann vielleicht kann ja die zweite Iteration oder sowas das tun.\n\nSpeaker 1: Sie haben sogar, Sie hatten in der Kinot relativ klar gesagt, also es gibt die die Audio und die, also gab sogar Namen für für die 2 Sachen, die anderen kommen 'n bisschen später raus. Und Sie haben ja auch gesagt, dass diese 2 Modelle 2 sind von 1 großen Kollektion. Das hat man nämlich auch in der Folge dazu 'n bisschen kritisiert, dass es dann nur die 2 gibt, aber es soll auch praktisch dann zum Launch schon viele verschiedene Brillenmodelle geben und nicht nur die 2.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ah, okay. Ja, vielleicht\n\nSpeaker 0: muss man sich das doch noch mal anschauen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich bin noch\n\nSpeaker 0: Ich bin noch Kommt drauf\n\nSpeaker 1: kommt drauf an, was Spark dann noch so macht in der Zukunft.\n\nSpeaker 0: Gut, abseits von Brillen, die es wahrscheinlich, weiß gar nicht, Dennis, wird sie bei uns auch geben oder ist es wieder erst mal son kannst Du in Amerika kaufen Ding?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich weiß es nicht, aber da ich zumindest Spark gerade angerufen habe, dass Du es auf gesagt habe. Ich weiß nicht, keine Ahnung. Ich glaub, es gab es gab's noch keine Informationen, aber es soll ja auch erst im Herbst in den USA kommen, von daher oder generell kommen, von daher. Gucken wir mal. Warten wir mal ab.\n\nSpeaker 0: Dann sprechen wir über andere Sachen, die vielleicht nicht so lange auf sich warten lassen. Welche Sessions haben dich noch besonders beeindruckt, Nico, oder fandest Du besonders interessant empfehlenswert?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich fand jetzt nicht unbedingt vom Inhalt, aber rein von der ganzen Aufmache her, die Keynotes beide, also die Hauptkeynote und auch die Developer Keynote, die waren beide megagut, weil halt Man man gemerkt einfach, es ist enorm einstudiert. So die Slides, die Animationen in den Slides zusammen mit dem Speaker, der Speakerin. Das ist alles wirklich aus einem Guss und war wirklich mega faszinierend, wie sie das gemacht haben. Das fand ich echt cool und dann halt, weiß gar nicht, waren paar Sessions, also gerade die Jämmer Sessions, eine Session, die war so zu Jämmer 4 und eine Session war eher so zu generell on device mit mit Jemma 4, die fand ich auch spannend, weil sie halt mehr so in meinem Interessensbereich liegen. Aber wenn ich jetzt 1 picken würde, dann auf jeden Fall die Animation in den Slides.\n\nMhm.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Ist es so, ich glaub, das schreibt sich Google ja viel auf die Fahne, dass man oder was ja auch ein Sinn dieser Entwickler*innenkonferenzen ist, dass man so den Kontakt hat zu den Leuten, die die Sachen tatsächlich bauen. Hattest Du das Gefühl, dass dort viele Googler unterwegs waren und dass man auch die Möglichkeit hat, da mit denen zu sprechen?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, auf jeden Fall. Also es war so, dass eigentlich, Du hattest so außerhalb von diesen Produktboots waren überall Stände, wo halt die Leute, weiß es nicht, ob es die Entwickler*innen oder mehr so, die aus dem Deffrell waren, gesessen sind. Mit dem kommt man eigentlich voll, also waren war 'n super Austausch. Gerade bei beim Chrome Stand waren es auch Fall Leute, die ich schon kannte und da war es mehr so einen Wiedersehen so von Leuten, die ich sonst so aus der Community kenne. Aber gerade bei AI habe ich übrigens 'n Philipp kennengelernt.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also Sehr gut.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich wusste natürlich, wer wer er ist aus dem aus dem Was programmierbar, aber ich hätte ihn jetzt noch nie noch nie mit ihm geredet. Ihn hatte ich per Zufall an seinem Stand dann kennengelernt, so wie auch sonst viele Leute, die ich über online immer wieder im Austausch war, die ich jetzt halt dann mal live gesehen hatte oder live mit Ihnen sprechen konnte.\n\nSpeaker 0: Interessant. Weil Du vorhin gesagt hast, wie wie wie polished diese Präsentation war. Ich hab dir auch beide gesehen, also sowohl die Keynote als auch die Developer Keynote. Und also ich glaube, man muss schon neidlos anerkennen, dass das alles sehr hohen production Value so hat, was sie da tun, aber ich tu mir da manchmal schwer oder andersrum, ich find's 'n bisschen schwierig manchmal beim Zuschauen, wenn so ein studierter Humor auf der Bühne ist. Also gerade, ich glaub in der Developer Keynote, als da Sunday auf der Bühne war, ganz am Anfang und dann mit seinen Nanobanana Bildern irgendwie rum gemacht hat, wo seine Hobbys gezeigt hat und wie er im Weltraum unterwegs ist, da irgendwie die Data Centers im Weltraum zu installieren und so.\n\nJa, das ist schon lustig, Ja. Aber es wirkt halt son bisschen unlustiger, weil er halt genau diese 5 Sätze sagt, wo Du genau weißt, die hat ihm jemand irgendwie dazu mitgegeben und ist son bisschen unorganisch dann irgendwie rübergekommen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Am schlimmsten finde ich, wenn 2 miteinander eine Konversation haben, die eine studiert war son kleines sich necken auf der Bühne und Du weißt, die haben genau den Satz fünfzigmal gesagt. Und so einen, oh ja, und das war bei doch bei dir auch so. Gut, dass Du's sagst. Ja, es war nämlich genau, oh, komm schon.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Oft sieht man ja irgendwo, findet man den Teleprompter, kann son bisschen abgleichen bei den orchestrierten Veranstaltungen da von denen. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, ich bin mir da nie so ganz sicher, ob das, also ich hab das auch schon oft auf Veranstaltungen gesehen, auch ehrlicherweise selber schon mal genutzt, ob das mehr so was ist, so was aus der Rechtsabteilung kommt so. Bitte, ihr steht vor vielen Leuten und bevor ihr hier irgendwie aufs Skript geht und irgendwas verratet, was vielleicht nicht gesagt werden soll oder vielleicht 'n Witz macht, der falsch interpretiert werden könnte oder so, haltet euch bitte einfach genau an diese Worte, ja. Oder ob das wirklich mehr so für die Leute ist im Sinne von, okay, ja? Es sind ja manchmal auch jetzt nicht irgendwie nur Deffrey Leute da, sondern manchmal auch ganz in Anführungszeichen normale Engineers, die halt das einfach vielleicht auch nicht gewohnt sind, irgendwie auf der Bühne zu stehen und vor Tausenden Leuten oder so zu sprechen, für die das halt wirklich hilfreich sein kann, ja? Keine Ahnung, was da das stärkere Argument irgendwie ist, wo das herkommt, aber ja, manchmal ist es schon sehr auffällig.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, na ja, ich glaube, weißt Du aber den ganz Großen, dann ist natürlich, geht's darum, dass jedes Wort sitzt. Ich meine, da wird jedes Wort dreimal umgedreht, welche Formulierung jetzt genau genutzt wird und wie und so weiter. Weiß nicht, ob das dann nur die Rechtsabteilung ist oder auch die Marketingabteilung, die sicherstellen möchte, dass genau diese Message drüber gebracht wird. Aber in der Regel ist auch je kleiner die Session, desto irrelevanter wird das. Also gehe mal davon aus, dass nicht jede jede der der der Sessions geskriptet war und mit Teleprom verlief.\n\nJa. Glaube ich okay. Nicht klar normal.\n\nSpeaker 2: Gerade bei den kleineren Sessions im Chrome Zelt zum Beispiel, das waren einfach normale Talks. Ich weiß es, ich nehm mal an, die waren auch gescriptet, aber da war ganz sicher nicht jedes Wort vom Teleprompter abgelesen. Und ich denk grad bei den großen Keynotes, es hat es ist beides. Sicher die Rechtsabteilung möchte sicherstellen, dass die Worte sauber gewählt sind und dann nicht 'n vielleicht noch dazwischenkommt, was dann anders ausgelegt werden könnte. Zudem hast Du halt die Visuals mit den Worten so krass abgestimmt, dass ich das Gefühl hab, dass es wie alles alles so passieren muss wie geplant.\n\nUnd dann, das merke ich auch bei mir immer wieder, dass Du einen Thema mit wenigen Worten aufn Punkt bringen kannst, ist halt da da hilft, wenn man sich das wie vorher überlegt hat und genau die Formulierungen hat und nicht einfach irgend 'n Stottern kommt und dann noch mal zurückgeht und denkt, ah, vielleicht könnte ich's noch so erklären, sondern wirklich so einfach den einen Satz zu dem Thema einfach runter rattern kann, so. Natürlich, das ist 'n Zusammenspiel aus Design, Marketing und Legal.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, wahrscheinlich, wahrscheinlich.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ist denn für dich der Networking Aspekt, den Du jetzt gerade genannt hast? Würdest Du sagen, das war der größte, Also deswegen bist Du hin und deswegen würdest Du auch wieder machen?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, auf jeden Fall. Ich mein, die Sessions sind ja alle online. Wenn's jetzt nur drum gehen würde, die Sessions anzugucken, dann kann ich's auch von zu Hause aus machen. Mhm. Aber Networking ist halt das Es ist ja bei jeder Konferenz so.\n\nDer Hallway Track ist der, der unter Umständen den meisten Mehrwert bietet oder weswegen Leute überhaupt an eine Konferenz gehen und das ist auf jeden Fall auch bei der Google IO der Fall. Ja, also grad, ich meine, ich komme ja viel, gerade in Europa bin ich ja viel unterwegs auf Konferenzen und lern viele Leute kennen und reden mit vielen Leuten, aber es sind halt dann noch mal Leute, die ich jetzt in Europa noch nie getroffen hätte oder vielleicht mal per Zufall, aber das sind halt an an einem Ort alle, die irgendwie was mit mit Jamma oder mit mit Chrome oder so, irgendwas zu tun haben.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das ist\n\nSpeaker 2: auf jeden Fall der Hauptgrund, wieso ihr wieder gehen würde.\n\nSpeaker 1: Und hat es irgendwie eine Art von, keine Ahnung, so Checkliste abgehakt, da soll man immer da sein, also wie fürs die Apple jünger irgendwie die WWDC ist, dass man sagt, oh, irgendwann will man nur da gewesen sein. Also jetzt glaube ich kleiner geringer geworden, seitdem das einfach nur noch gescriptete Videos sind und vor Ort nicht mehr so wahnsinnig viel passiert. Aber war es trotzdem auch so ein Aha Moment so die Bühne dann mal zu sehen, die Du sonst immer nur im Livestream gesehen hast?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja voll. Also ja. Ich meine, ich kann das. Es ist ja immer was anderes, wenn Du dort bist und son bisschen die die die ganze So ein bisschen, weißt Du, wo ist was und wie sieht die Bühne überhaupt dann aus? Nicht nur im Fernsehen, sondern ja, ich meine, Du kannst zum Beispiel hinter der Bühne ist 'n großer son son Hügel, son Hang mit mit Rasen und das geht relativ weit hoch und Du kannst auch gut einfach auf dem Rasen setzen, wenn das nicht so heiß gewesen wäre.\n\nKönnte immer noch gut aufm Rasen sitzen und könnte von dort die Keynote verfolgen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Das\n\nSpeaker 2: sind alles Sachen, die siehst Du nicht, wenn Du es nur online verfolgst und es war schon cool, das mal gesehen zu haben. Aber ich finde jetzt Checkliste abhaken wär jetzt so, okay, habe ich gemacht, muss ich nicht mehr machen. Und das war's jetzt für mich nicht. Es war so wie, war cool, habe ich's mal gemacht. Also ja, Checkliste ja, aber ich würde auch wieder gehen.\n\nAlso es ist jetzt nicht so, dass es nur dafür, dass ich's mal dort gewesen war, ist.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wir haben in der Folge über die Google Cloud Next son bisschen bemängelt, dass also es ist ja deutlich größere Veranstaltungen, irgendwie über 30, 35000 Leute, nicht im im Valley, sondern in in Las Vegas. Und haben son bisschen bemängelt, das was so bis als Gefühl fehlt, ist so dieses zu Gast bei Google zu sein, weil am Ende bist Du halt in sonem Casinohotel in der Messehalle. Auch viel coole Sachen, aber es fühlt sich halt nicht so an, ja. Als Du jetzt da warst, hattest Du das Gefühl, bei Google quasi zu sein oder war es immer noch mehr so, na ja, ich bin hier und Google halt irgendwie auch, aber wir treffen uns halt irgendwie auf diesem Gelände?\n\nSpeaker 2: Gutes Frau, was meinst Du?\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich wüsste jetzt nicht, was sie anders machen müssten, damit sie's mehr danach anfühlen würde, weil Also, es klar, es ist 'n Es ist es ist nicht im Google Headquarter oder so, aber Du bist halt direkt neben diesem großen Visitor Center. Was auch schon spannend ist, mal auch dort Missing durch durchzulaufen. Es hat alles mega Google Vibes, also ist jetzt nicht eben, ich denk, das Problem jetzt, ich weiß noch nicht an der an der Cloudnext, aber dort ist ja wirklich das Problem, Du bist in 'nem Hotel. Du bist irgendwo in 'nem in 'nem Fremden Gebiet, was nichts gegen Google zu tun hatte. Während dem Du jetzt bei diesem Shorline Areal Es ist im, sagen wir mal, neutrales Areal, was dann von Google in einen Google Areal umgewandelt wird.\n\nAlso doch, man hat auf jeden Fall das Gefühl, hey, das man ist bei Google. Nicht im Office, aber ist auch schwierig für 7000 Leute, aber man das Branding ist da.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, okay. Das ist doch schon mal schon mal viel wert. Jetzt hast Du eben schon gesagt, es ist auf alle Fälle son son List item für dich, aber abgehakt ist es nicht, weil Du würdest noch mal hingehen. Das nimmt ja son bisschen schon die Antwort vorweg auf, kann man das empfehlen oder das hatte ich zumindest nicht komplett verschreckt, die Teilnahme da, ja. Wem würdest Du das denn da empfehlen?\n\nAlso auch wenn jetzt nicht jeder dahin kann, weil man 'n Invite braucht oder so, aber für wen ist es denn überhaupt am Ende des Tages relevant?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich ich hab's Gefühl, wenn man mit 1 von diesen Google Produkten arbeitet, also jetzt die Schwerpunkte waren ja AI, Android, Chrome, Cloud, genau, Dann macht's auf jeden Fall Sinn. Also, wenn man eine Einladung bekommt und mal die Möglichkeit bekommt, dorthin zu gehen, ich würd's jedem empfehlen, das zu machen. Wenn Du jetzt nicht zu tief im im Google Ökosystem drin bist, dann, weiß ich nicht, bringst Du glaube ich nicht so viel. Mhm. Aber da hast Du allein durch die Einladung hast Du schon eine Art Vorselektionierung, weil eben bei mir war es jetzt jedes Jahr immer wegen diesem Web AI.\n\nDa hat Google, weil dieses Jahr nicht so präsent, aber sie haben immer mal wieder eine eine Web Run Time für AI Modelle gehabt oder Milliliter Modelle gehabt. Und die war jetzt dieses Jahr nicht so präsent, aber es war immer auch da und dadurch habe ich auch die Einladung bekommen und weil da sowieso im Chrome Umfeld sehr viel mit mit AI passiert, Hat auf jeden Fall Sinn gemacht und wie gesagt, also wenn man in 1 von diesen Technologien tief drin ist, dann muss auf jeden Fall Sinn mal hinzugehen und die Leute kennenzulernen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Es gibt ja, da habe ich eben, vielleicht hast Du das auch verwechselt, Jan, gibt ja auch die Google I o Connect Events, was ja so ein bisschen ist, okay wie oder wo wo Google praktisch so Satellite Events macht in den verschiedenen Märkten noch, diese Experience dann 'n bisschen näherzubringen. Ich hatte gerade parallel noch mal in mein Handy geguckt. Ich bin nämlich gar nicht sicher, wie das dieses Jahr, ob das schon.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich glaube in Berlin ist 1 Anfang Juni. Lockdown.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja, Juli, dritter Juli, dritter Juli, wünsche ich das ja richtig sehen. Genau also ich war die letzten beiden Jahre war ich auf der war ich bei der Google AEOConnect und es hörte sich erstmal sehr ähnlich an. Also Du hast eine coole Location. Es war auch Sommer und heiß. Du hattest unterschiedliche Zelte, die diese 4 Tracks waren den unterschiedlichen Bereichen, die es von Google gibt.\n\nEs hat ein unfassbar starkes Google Branding. Also es gibt glaube ich wenige, für mich immer so die der Goldstandard, was irgendwie Eventorganisation angeht, Egal ob Catering oder ja, all das was Du auch gesagt hast, Einlasskontrolle und so. Das haben sie einfach wirklich sehr sehr gut drauf. Und eben dort auch viele Leute, die sie einfliegen, ne für die unterschiedlichen Themen. Wahrscheinlich nicht so ganz in krass wie wie es dann an der Haupt Google iOS ist, aber auch dort eben den engen Zugang zu allen wirklich Leuten, die wirklich an den an den Produkten arbeiten.\n\nGenau, das gibt's dann eben für den europäischen Markt in Berlin. Da gibt's, glaube ich, noch einen in Asien und eine in irgendwo anders.\n\nSpeaker 2: Vielleicht an der Ostküste noch was?\n\nSpeaker 1: Kann sein. Nur New York, New York, oder Washington\n\nSpeaker 0: oder so. Kann sein.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Ich war leider noch nie an der Connect, die in Berlin ist, hat sicher schon das dritte Jahr, glaube ich. Und ich glaube, vor vor Corona war die ganze Google IO auch noch son bisschen mehr der Community Aspekt, weil ich weiß, ich bin ja noch Teil von diesem Google Liberable Expert Programm. Mhm. Und ich meinte, die, die schon länger dabei sind, haben gesagt, dass das früher auch son ziemlich son Meeting war für die ganzen GDIs.\n\nUnd das haben sie nach Corona haben sie das komplett verkleinert, das heißt, als Gedie bekommst Du nicht automatisch eine Einladung, geschweige denken, dass da irgendwie eine Der Flug und die Reise gezahlt würde, aber Du hast auf jeden Fall Travel Support für die Connect Events. Wenn Du als GDD e irgendwo in einen anderen lokalen Io Connect Event gehen möchtest, dann kannst Du das und wird auch von von Google bezahlt. Und ich glaub, das war so die Idee, dass man irgendwie sagt, wir haben nicht einen großen Event, wo die ganze Community zusammenkommt in San Francisco, sondern wir machen halt auf der ganzen Welt noch kleinere Events, wo sich halt die lokalen Communitys treffen können. Und das sind dann die die Connect Events. Aber inhaltlich ist es ziemlich das Gleiche.\n\nIch glaube, das sind die gleichen Booth und von den Googlern, weiß ich jetzt nicht, ich denke jetzt nicht an jedem Io Connect Event sind Ist das ganze Team da, aber auf jeden Fall sind aus dem Devirrell Team kommen auf jeden Fall viele.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja. Dann, Dennis, lass uns doch noch einen Satz irgendwie darauf verwenden, Google io Connect. Wenn ich mich vorher schon mit der Google io beschäftigt habe, wie viel Neues höre ich denn dann noch auf der Connect? Wahrscheinlich, also heben Sie sich sowas auf oder ist das more of the same?\n\nSpeaker 1: Sie versuchen schon so 2, 3 Kleinigkeiten noch mal mitzubringen, die das 'n bisschen abfrischen, aber sie gehen aber schon eher auch da, also in den Vorbereitungsmaterialien oder Vorbreitungsmaterial in den in den in der Kommunikation, die Du vorher bekommen hast, war schon so, hey, guck dir mal zumindest mal die Keynotes und die wichtigen Sachen von der Google IO an. Also sie wollen es schon nicht als es ist genau der gleiche Inhalt und hier heißt sie nochmal, sondern Google IO ist die Basis und wir gehen jetzt nochmal ein bisschen spezieller in ein paar Themen rein. Also das ist schon so ein bisschen der Anspruch. Ich glaube jetzt die ganz großen Announces waren natürlich irgendwie trotzdem nicht da und das ist aber natürlich immer son Timing Geschirr, ne. Ich meine, wenn es zufällig, keine Ahnung, Gemmalight 3 5 in die Woche fällt, wo sie sowieso releasen wollen, dann nehmen sie vielleicht auch so eine Bühne dann gerne nochmal mit.\n\nUnd und enaucen das dann. Ich glaub zum Beispiel Jamma 3, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, war Thema bei der Google io Connect in Berlin und wurde mehr oder weniger zeitgleich released. Kann's ungefähr sein, Nikoko kritisch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Kann kann gut sein, ich weiß die Daten jetzt nicht\n\nSpeaker 1: mehr so.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nicht mehr so.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Aber ja. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wär's ja spannend zu sehen, ob sie quasi vom Produktionsvorlauf quasi, ob sie son bisschen Input von der großen IO quasi mitnehmen und schauen euch immer, was hat die Leute interessiert, wo müssen wir vielleicht auch noch mal Messaging nachschärfen oder so was, ne. Und das dann quasi da noch mal detaillierter anbieten oder ob sie sowieso so oder so viel Vorlaufzeit haben, dass bis die io in Mountain View rum ist, die io connects schon alle soweit in der Vorbereitung sind, dass das dann gar nicht mehr mit einfließen kann. Falls Du noch mal auf die io connect gehst, dieses Jahr, das kannst Du ja mal nachfragen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ich bin super verwirrt. Ich ich sehe gerade, findet ihr irgendwas, ich bin ja jetzt nur am Handy, findet ihr irgendwas online? Ich hab irgendwie, ich hab im April, ich bin nicht multitaskingfähig genug für so was. Ich hab im April eine E-Mail, also wenn ich mein E-Mail-Programm jetzt gerade nicht falsch verstehe, hab ich mich registriert. Und zwar würde sie stattfinden am fünfundzwanzigsten Juni und zwar in Berlin.\n\nAlso ich hab eine ich hab eine Einladung bekommen. Und wenn ich da jetzt auf den Link klicke, das ist das, wenn ich mich auch meine, dann ist tatsächlich auch schon son bisschen, dass dort steht, hey, from Google I o. Also das ist so der der Startpunkt praktisch. Und dann guck mal, was es noch auf der auf der Session Agenda noch weitergibt. Ja.\n\nFür mich ist es halt so, ich glaube jetzt für den einen Tag würde ich nicht unbedingt nach Berlin fahren zu Google Air Connect. Ich hatte das in den letzten Jahren verbunden ja mit diesem Google Devapaladvisory Report, was am Tag vorher auch stattgefunden hat. Aus der Gruppe habe ich jetzt dieses Jahr noch nichts gehört, aber ich glaube deswegen hatte ich mich schon mal registriert, wenn das wieder zusammenfällt, ich da dann auch hingehen kann. Ja, weil für son Zweitages Event war es dann okay, aber für einen Tag ist wahrscheinlich für mich die andere Reise ein bisschen weiter.\n\nSpeaker 2: Also ich glaube, Sie haben mir gar nicht so viel Content, dass Sie an jeder Io Connect was komplett Neues noch releasen könnten. Und ich fand jetzt auch 'n paar Sachen waren sehr early Stage, jetzt gerade die Brillen. Ich meine, wenn man's jetzt ankündigt, dass eventuell im Oktober dann die Ersten in den USA verschifft werden, ist halt so. Ja. Also, ja.\n\nIst ist relativ früh, dass man das announcen möchte und ich denk, dann dann müssten sie ja jetzt noch weiter nach vorne was announcen. Ich weiß nicht. Ich finde auch die Cloud Next und die Google I o relativ nah zusammen. Mhm. Und es wurde auch für Google dann schwierig, sich zu überlegen, ja, wo möchte man was announcen?\n\nEs würde viel mehr Sinn machen, wenn sie im Frühling 1 von beiden machen und dann im Herbst vielleicht noch eine, ja der, ah, ich hab's grad vergessen, Cloud Next.\n\nSpeaker 0: Oder Ja, die Audience ist halt schon schon unterschiedlich, aber ich glaub trotzdem wär's auch, wie Du sagst, ne, trotzdem wär's besser, das son bisschen aufzurennen. Allein aus medialer Sicht für sie ist halt mehr Aufmerksamkeit in der Summe, wenn Du's son bisschen weiterstrecken kannst, als wenn es jetzt innerhalb von, ich glaub, sind jetzt 6 Wochen oder so gewesen, ja, wo da halt beide Events stattgefunden haben und auch wenn das eine jetzt irgendwie mehr für Infrastruktur und bla und das andere mehr für, ich sag mal, Entwicklerendkunden sozusagen vielleicht gemacht ist, ja. Ja, könnte man könnte man noch besser teilen.\n\nSpeaker 1: Genau, aber zu Google Eye Connect vielleicht noch mal. Ich glaube, das ist ein kostenloses Event, zu dem man sich anmelden darf. Also es gibt eine Waitlist und unter anderem meine ich, dass Student innen immer relativ stark gefördert wurden, dass sie einfach dahin kommen können, dann wie Du schon gesagt hast, diese ganzen Google Communities, Developerer Experts Gruppen, die sich da auch treffen. Und das fand ich zumindest auch immer ganz gut. Weil ich hab da schon relativ viele Kontakte und Einblicke so bekommen.\n\nAlso für mich war Netzwerken da auch ein großes Ding. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Und ich glaub, die sind auch kostenlos, oder? Es gibt keine Möglichkeit, ein Ticket zu kaufen. Das wär auch so, entweder man geht eingeladen oder man kommt auf die Waitlist.\n\nSpeaker 1: Ja. Genau. Aber da kannst Du dich zumindest, ich weiß nicht, ob das bei der Google ja auch so ist. Du kannst dich aktiv praktisch bewerben und dich auf die Weltliste setzen lassen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, Mensch, da musst Du die Programmierer doch auch mal irgendwie mehr bewerben. Ja, ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Wie gesagt, ich bin registriert, also falls Du Wir könnten, ich könnte da schon hin. Aber wie gesagt, ich ich weiß noch nicht sicher, ob die ob dieses andere Event gleichzeitig stattfindet. Aber das ist ja auch für unsere Hörer ja nicht so relevant, was ich da mache.\n\nSpeaker 0: Außer, dass das gibt. Vielleicht für die in Berlin, die wollen sich vielleicht auch mal treffen, keine Ahnung. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Gerne. Mit dem Stammtisch oder sowas. Gerne.\n\nSpeaker 0: Gut, ich hab hier meine Liste fast komplett abgearbeitet. Dennis, hast Du noch Fragen an Nico?\n\nSpeaker 1: Nee, aber wer wollte gerade was sagen, der Nico?\n\nSpeaker 2: Nee, ich hab nur geatmet.\n\nSpeaker 1: Okay,\n\nSpeaker 2: muss ich muss ich ab und zu auch falsch\n\nSpeaker 0: seid ihr seid ihr gestattet hier. Ich hab noch eine Frage und die Hörerin da draußen werden sich jetzt denken, wieso fragt ihr das und wenn ihr die nächste Folge mit Nico gehört habt, werdet ihr wissen, warum ich das frag. Nico, Du bist ja jetzt verreist, so Ja. Nach Amerika, so. Hast Du bestimmt auch son paar elektronische Geräte dabei gehabt?\n\nSo, jetzt weiß er schon, warum Ja. Was mit was hast Du denn so aufgeladen und wie lief das so unterwegs?\n\nSpeaker 2: Also, ich weiß jetzt nicht, was ich schon spoiler und was nicht, aber\n\nSpeaker 0: Ist okay.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich hab in der letzten Folge, die wir aufgenommen, die jetzt dann bald erscheinen wird, habe ich als Pick off the day einen, was ist denn so ein Mehrfachstecker für USB, USB Geräte aufladen zu können, gebracht. Turnsout, eine oder 2 Tage, nachdem wir die Aufnahme gemacht haben, ist mein ist der kaputtgegangen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Oh, das heißt nicht ganz besondere Blick auf den\n\nSpeaker 2: 11. Okay, es war so random. Aber ich hab mir 'n neuen gekauft und wir haben ja noch drüber diskutiert, was jetzt besser ist, ob mehr Watt oder weniger Watt. Der Neue, die ich gekauft habe, ist klein, eine andere weniger Watt. Heißt mein MacBook Pro lädt nicht supersuper schnell.\n\nAber ich hab mir deinen Tipp zu Herzen genommen und gesagt oder gedacht, lieber einen kleineren, bin ich dann einfach, wo ich's über Nacht eingesteckt und ich meine, das ist lädt auch so. Also ist nicht so, dass ich, dass ich stundenlang warten muss. Aber wenn Du\n\nSpeaker 0: das eben oder volle Last hast, passt das ja auch.\n\nSpeaker 2: Genau. Lieber kaufe ich ein kleineres Netzteil, wo ich dann halt über Nacht das MacBook aufladen kann und das hat sich bewährt lustigerweise. Also vielleicht muss ich meine alles alles, was ich jetzt mal gesagt habe, einfach rausschneiden. Stimmt nicht. Kaufe eher lieber ein kleineres mit weniger Watt und das läuft auch gut.\n\nSpeaker 0: Also, die Aufklärung für den Dennis zu machen, der sich, glaube ich, grade fragt, was zum Henker das ja alles soll. Der Running Gag war eigentlich, dass Nico jedes Mal, wenn er bei uns im Podcast ist, der 'n Pick of the day mitbringt und immer in der nächsten Folge dann dazu noch mal eingeladen wird. Also zuerst war er Mhm. Der erste Podcast mit Nico war zu WordPress. Pick of the day war son PWA Thema.\n\nHat er 'n Podcast mit uns gemacht über PWAs. Da war sein Pick of the day Transformer js. So, dann haben wir mit ihm eine Folge gemacht über Transformer js. Das ist die, die jetzt dann auch bald rauskommt. Und da hat er gesagt, okay, diese Kette zu brechen, ja, ist jetzt ist jetzt quasi sein Pick, was worüber wir nie widersprechen werden, nämlich dieses Netzteil, so, ja, und hat dann quasi dieses Ladegerät als Pick of the day gehabt und ich wollte einfach nur diesen Run aufrechterhalten\n\nSpeaker 1: und\n\nSpeaker 0: noch mal ganz kurz über dieses Netzteil sprechen und offensichtlich hat sich das gelohnt. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 1: Hast Du das für den Pick of the day? Dann könnten wir nicht das doch noch mal, ja genau.\n\nSpeaker 2: Hey, ich hab ich hab's vergessen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Nein, das gibt dem Special Aber nee, das war alles gut. Alles gut. Alles gut. Jetzt hätte ich dich vorgewarnt. Gut.\n\nJa. Wunderbar. Nachdem ich auch diese kritische Frage losgeworden bin, hat meine Liste dann endgültig erschöpft. Nico, hast Du noch was, was Du unbedingt erzählen wolltest und dich keiner danach gefragt hat?\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, vielleicht. Wir haben im Vorgespräch kurz drüber geredet, Waymo.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, unbedingt, unbedingt, ja. Genau.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ich bin ja, ich war das erste Mal im Silicon Valley und deswegen auch zum ersten Mal mit Waymo unterwegs und die sind die sind krass.\n\nSpeaker 0: Das muss man vielleicht für 'n paar Leute noch erklären, Ja. Die noch nicht mit Waymo gefahren sind wie wir.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja, Waymos sind diese selbstfahrenden Autos. Das sind diese Jaguar, was ist sone Art Jaguar Offroader, bisschen was Größeres.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, son ist ja Und\n\nSpeaker 2: die sind halt mit diesen, was ist das, Lyar oder irgend so? Sensoren ausgestattet und das coole ist, das ist wie Uber, Du hast eine App, kannst sagen, hol mich bitte dort ab, ich möchte gern dorthin, dann berechnest dir einen Preis, der ist 'n bisschen intransparent, aber ja, bekommst einen Preis, sagst, ja, ich möchte gern abgeholt werden und 'n paar Minuten später fährt halt 'n 'n 'n 'n fahrerloses Auto vor. Und ich hab halt so ich ich das ich das stand auf jeden Fall auf meiner Bucketlist für für San Francisco und deswegen auch meinen ersten, direkt, als ich von der Vanue zum Hotel gefallen bin, habe ich mir halt son Waymo bestellt. Und es ist schon das Ding surreal das erste Mal, wo man da aufm Beifahrersitz sitzt. Man sieht links neben sich, er ist Lenkrad, was sich bewegt.\n\nDu siehst vorne auf dem Display siehst Du genau, was er gerade sieht, welche Route er nehmen möchte, was wirklich Es ist Ich ich habe mich megagesicher gefühlt. Es war aufm Komfort her über die App, eben Du sagst, wann er entriegeln soll, wann er losfahren soll. Das ist alles. Es ist die Experience ist megagut. Und dann auch im direkten Vergleich mit Uber, was halt wirklich so, Hab ich vorher schon gesagt, die Pressstruktur ist bisschen schwierig, weil die gleiche Strecke kostet mal 10 Dollar, mal 35 Dollar, also wirklich so völlig random und auch nicht tageszeitabhängig, so wie ich's jetzt gesehen hatte.\n\nUnd deswegen werden trotzdem auch mal auf Uber ausgewichen. Und bei Uber ist halt schon so wie beim Taxi auch. Je nachdem, was Du für einen Fahrer eine Fahrerin hast, fühlt man sich halt dann auch weniger sicher. Also jetzt nicht, also rein, was die Verkehrslage angeht und wie sie sich durch den Verkehr schlängeln, fühlt man sich halt dann auch sicherer oder weniger sicher. Und bei Waymo ist es halt wirklich super.\n\nSpeaker 0: Die fahren schon sehr konservativ, muss man sagen. Ja.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ja. Ja. Das auf jeden Fall Das das ist mein Pick of the day, wenn's\n\nSpeaker 0: Das wollte ich sagen, wenn das jetzt sein Pick of the day ist, dann bin ich gespannt, was die nächste Podcastfolge wird. Oh nee. Ja, vielleicht müssen wir doch\n\nSpeaker 1: noch mal Nee, nee, ich\n\nSpeaker 0: mach schon so was für Folge machen.\n\nSpeaker 2: Ah ja, genau. Muss vergessen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Ja, das Kit Projekt, ah, da finden wir schon noch was, aber Ja. Wie gesagt, die eine Folge, die Du dann noch brauchst für die für die Top 3, die kriegen wir auf jeden Fall noch. Mhm. Wunderbar. Dann bleibt uns, glaube ich, nichts anderes zu sagen, außer danke Nico, dass Du dir Zeit genommen hast und uns erzählt hast, wie's so in San Francisco war oder in Mountain View.\n\nIch muss sagen, mich hast Du son bisschen gecatcht. Ich hätte jetzt auch gerne eine Einladung für nächstes Jahr. Mal gucken, wen ich da bestechen kann, dass das funktioniert.\n\nSpeaker 2: Es waren relativ viele Tech Influencer dort. Also von dem her, es gibt wohl Wege über irgendwie Öffentlichkeitsarbeit, was auch immer an Tickets zu kommen.\n\nSpeaker 0: Hast Du hast Du mich gerade Influencer genannt jetzt? Weißt Du, ob ich nicht beleidigt fühle.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also 3 3 Zentimeter gewachsen oder?\n\nSpeaker 2: Sag sag Du, ist es eine Beleidigung, dann habe ich es nicht gesagt, ist es eine ist 'n Kompliment, dann habe ich es gesagt, ja.\n\nSpeaker 0: Alles klar.\n\nSpeaker 1: Also ganz Alter ist 'n Kompliment.\n\nSpeaker 2: Okay.\n\nSpeaker 0: Wunderbar, dann danke Nico, danke Dennis. Wir hören uns bald wieder und wenn nicht, sehen wir Nico spätestens auf der Programmiercon wieder bei uns im November.\n\nSpeaker 2: Auf jeden Fall.\n\nSpeaker 0: Mach Gott. Tschau, tschau. Tschüs.",[23607,23616,23621,23630,23634,23638,23643,23648,23658,23662,23665,23670,23677,23689,23693,23698,23702,23705,23708,23712,23715,23720,23725,23729,23733,23740,23745,23752,23759,23765,23772,23777,23782,23793,23797,23809,23820,23826,23830,23837,23841,23845,23849,23853,23860,23873,23877,23885,23892,23905,23914,23921,23934,23943,23948,23956,23960,23967,23973,23981,23988,23993,24004,24016,24023,24026,24034,24042,24046,24050,24054,24067,24075,24079,24083,24087,24091,24100,24108,24114,24127,24132,24135,24143,24147,24151,24155,24167,24180,24193,24197,24206,24210,24214,24218,24222,24229,24233,24241,24246,24255,24261,24265,24269,24273,24277,24282,24295,24302,24315,24318,24326,24339,24343,24350,24362,24369,24379,24385,24398,24411,24418,24430,24436,24440,24446,24456,24463,24467,24471,24479,24491,24495,24498,24511,24515,24526,24530,24533,24546,24553,24566,24570,24582,24588,24596,24602,24615,24627,24634,24638,24643,24648,24659,24671,24675,24684,24697,24705,24709,24713,24717,24720,24725,24734,24746,24757,24767,24778,24789,24793,24802,24814,24819,24827,24835,24841,24850,24857,24863,24869,24873,24877,24880,24884,24896,24903,24907,24911,24918,24922,24934,24943,24947,24958,24971,24983,24986,24991,24997,25001,25011,25019,25025,25030,25035,25042,25048,25052,25065,25078,25091,25096,25102,25110,25114,25118,25124,25134,25142,25149,25155,25159,25163,25167,25171,25174,25180,25184],{"sentences":23608,"speaker":146,"num_words":23615,"start":144,"end":404},[23609,23611,23613],{"text":23610,"start":144,"end":188},"Hallo und herzlich willkommen zu einem neuen Special hier in der Programmierbar.",{"text":23612,"start":193,"end":252},"Wir wollen mehr oder weniger tagesaktuell über die Google I o sprechen und einmal darüber sprechen.",{"text":23614,"start":252,"end":404},"Wir haben ja schon inhaltlich darüber gesprochen in den News, aber wir wollen mal darüber sprechen, wie es so ist als Konferenz und deshalb bin nicht nur ich heute hier im Studio, der Jan für euch, sondern zugeschaltet aus der Saline außerdem.",70,{"sentences":23617,"speaker":126,"num_words":23620,"start":408,"end":421},[23618],{"text":23619,"start":408,"end":421},"Der Dennis, hi.",3,{"sentences":23622,"speaker":146,"num_words":23629,"start":425,"end":557},[23623,23625,23627],{"text":23624,"start":425,"end":525},"Und weil weder der Dennis noch ich persönlich auf der Google Eye O-Bahn, haben wir uns noch jemanden eingeladen, der natürlich vor Ort war und uns berichten kann, wie es gelaufen ist.",{"text":23626,"start":525,"end":551},"Wir haben mal wieder den Nico Martin am Start.",{"text":23628,"start":551,"end":557},"Hallo Nico.",43,{"sentences":23631,"speaker":563,"num_words":563,"start":561,"end":568},[23632],{"text":23633,"start":561,"end":568},"Hallo zusammen.",{"sentences":23635,"speaker":126,"num_words":563,"start":568,"end":576},[23636],{"text":23637,"start":568,"end":576},"Moin moin.",{"sentences":23639,"speaker":146,"num_words":23642,"start":576,"end":642},[23640],{"text":23641,"start":576,"end":642},"Nico, ich hab gesagt, mal wieder, ich hab eben nachgeschaut, das ist jetzt deine vierte Podcastfolge bei uns.",18,{"sentences":23644,"speaker":563,"num_words":23647,"start":647,"end":662},[23645],{"text":23646,"start":647,"end":662},"Wird wohl so sein, ja.",5,{"sentences":23649,"speaker":146,"num_words":23657,"start":666,"end":905},[23650,23651,23653,23655],{"text":670,"start":666,"end":667},{"text":23652,"start":667,"end":798},"Das also die die ironischerweise die Dritte, die die Leute zu hören bekommen, die Vierte, die wir schon aufgenommen haben, das wird dann in ein paar Wochen den den Leuten wirst Du noch mal auf die Ohren kommen.",{"text":23654,"start":802,"end":847},"Aber damit bist Du fast an Platz 1 der programmierbaren MVP Liste vorgerückt.",{"text":23656,"start":851,"end":905},"Wir müssen dich noch einmal einladen und dann ist vorbei sozusagen, da ist niemand öfter hier gewesen.",69,{"sentences":23659,"speaker":563,"num_words":563,"start":909,"end":917},[23660,23661],{"text":913,"start":909,"end":910},{"text":918,"start":916,"end":917},{"sentences":23663,"speaker":126,"num_words":126,"start":917,"end":921},[23664],{"text":924,"start":917,"end":921},{"sentences":23666,"speaker":563,"num_words":23620,"start":927,"end":939},[23667,23668],{"text":931,"start":927,"end":928},{"text":23669,"start":933,"end":939},"Ja, ich",{"sentences":23671,"speaker":146,"num_words":23676,"start":939,"end":1103},[23672,23674],{"text":23673,"start":939,"end":1019},"glaub auch, das wird noch über kurz oder lang passieren und ich hab noch ein ganz besonderes Schmankerl dazu am Ende, aber das heben wir uns auf.",{"text":23675,"start":1019,"end":1103},"Wir wollen nämlich erst mal sprechen über die Google IO und vielleicht, Nico, magst Du erst mal kurz erzählen, was ist die Google IO überhaupt und wieso warst Du da?",57,{"sentences":23678,"speaker":563,"num_words":23688,"start":1107,"end":1359},[23679,23681,23683,23685,23687],{"text":23680,"start":1107,"end":1113},"Ja klar.",{"text":23682,"start":1117,"end":1164},"Die Google I o ist eigentlich so, was kann man sagen, die Entwickler*innenkonferenz von Google.",{"text":23684,"start":1168,"end":1275},"Also es geht vor allem drum, dass sie einmal im Jahr präsentieren können, an was sie so gearbeitet haben im letzten Jahr, was es für Neuerungen gibt und vielleicht auch 'n paar neue Announcement machen können.",{"text":23686,"start":1275,"end":1353},"Jetzt in dem Fall viel, was im Gemini passiert ist und was für neue Produkte sie haben, was sie gerenamed haben und so weiter und so fort.",{"text":1362,"start":1358,"end":1359},81,{"sentences":23690,"speaker":563,"num_words":23620,"start":1364,"end":1372},[23691],{"text":23692,"start":1364,"end":1372},"Also, in dem",{"sentences":23694,"speaker":126,"num_words":23697,"start":1374,"end":1405},[23695],{"text":23696,"start":1374,"end":1405},"Das ist doch doch doch doch doch doch doch doch",10,{"sentences":23699,"speaker":563,"num_words":23620,"start":1405,"end":1415},[23700],{"text":23701,"start":1405,"end":1415},"doch doch doch",{"sentences":23703,"speaker":126,"num_words":23620,"start":1415,"end":1425},[23704],{"text":23701,"start":1415,"end":1425},{"sentences":23706,"speaker":146,"num_words":23620,"start":1425,"end":1434},[23707],{"text":23701,"start":1425,"end":1434},{"sentences":23709,"speaker":563,"num_words":23647,"start":1434,"end":1450},[23710],{"text":23711,"start":1434,"end":1450},"doch doch doch doch doch",{"sentences":23713,"speaker":126,"num_words":23647,"start":1450,"end":1466},[23714],{"text":23711,"start":1450,"end":1466},{"sentences":23716,"speaker":563,"num_words":23719,"start":1466,"end":1493},[23717],{"text":23718,"start":1466,"end":1493},"doch doch doch doch doch mal eine Frage,",8,{"sentences":23721,"speaker":126,"num_words":23724,"start":1497,"end":1508},[23722],{"text":23723,"start":1497,"end":1508},"die ich doch noch",4,{"sentences":23726,"speaker":563,"num_words":23620,"start":1508,"end":1519},[23727],{"text":23728,"start":1508,"end":1519},"mal Ja, okay.",{"sentences":23730,"speaker":146,"num_words":563,"start":1519,"end":1527},[23731],{"text":23732,"start":1519,"end":1527},"Also, in",{"sentences":23734,"speaker":563,"num_words":23739,"start":1527,"end":1650},[23735,23737],{"text":23736,"start":1527,"end":1563},"dem sie keine öffentliche Konferenz, sondern es geht halt per Einladung.",{"text":23738,"start":1566,"end":1650},"Das heißt, wenn man eine Einladung von 'nem Googler oder von jemandem, der Einladung verteilen kann, bekommt, dann kann man dort hingehen und kostet in dem Fall dann auch nichts.",41,{"sentences":23741,"speaker":126,"num_words":23744,"start":1653,"end":1670},[23742],{"text":23743,"start":1653,"end":1670},"Es gibt gar keine bezahlten Tickets?",6,{"sentences":23746,"speaker":563,"num_words":23751,"start":1673,"end":1709},[23747,23749],{"text":23748,"start":1673,"end":1683},"Ich glaube nicht.",{"text":23750,"start":1683,"end":1709},"Also nicht, dass die öffentlich im Verkauf wären.",11,{"sentences":23753,"speaker":146,"num_words":23758,"start":1713,"end":1802},[23754,23756],{"text":23755,"start":1713,"end":1726},"Das wusste ich auch nicht.",{"text":23757,"start":1726,"end":1802},"Ich dachte, dass das mehr so wie WWDC früher mal war, dass man halt für viel Geld, aber man kann da schon irgendwie hin, wenn man will,",32,{"sentences":23760,"speaker":563,"num_words":23751,"start":1806,"end":1840},[23761,23763],{"text":23762,"start":1806,"end":1816},"aber ist ja abgefahren.",{"text":23764,"start":1819,"end":1840},"Nicht, ich hab die Google ja auch",{"sentences":23766,"speaker":146,"num_words":23771,"start":1840,"end":1890},[23767,23769],{"text":23768,"start":1840,"end":1877},"das erste Mal gehört, Was habt ihr denn Weder noch.",{"text":23770,"start":1881,"end":1890},"Dazu gemacht früher?",13,{"sentences":23773,"speaker":126,"num_words":23776,"start":1894,"end":1938},[23774],{"text":23775,"start":1894,"end":1938},"Ich war die Fabi und Sebi waren auf der Cloudnext, so wie Du jetzt auch.",15,{"sentences":23778,"speaker":146,"num_words":23781,"start":1943,"end":1966},[23779],{"text":23780,"start":1943,"end":1966},"Ah genau, okay, ich dachte, ich hab",7,{"sentences":23783,"speaker":126,"num_words":23792,"start":1966,"end":2144},[23784,23786,23788,23790],{"text":23785,"start":1966,"end":1975},"dir gedacht.",{"text":23787,"start":1975,"end":2067},"Aber ich würde grundsätzlich, mein WWDC ist ja son Ding, was tatsächlich auch 'n bisschen über die Apple Fanboy Kreise hinaus unbekannt ist, als halt irgendwie große Entwicklerkonferenz.",{"text":23789,"start":2070,"end":2121},"Ich würde auch mal vermuten, dass die wahrscheinlich so sich etabliert hatte, bevor Google I0N Ding war oder?",{"text":23791,"start":2121,"end":2144},"Ist Google I o irgendwie schon super alt?",56,{"sentences":23794,"speaker":146,"num_words":696,"start":2148,"end":2314},[23795],{"text":23796,"start":2148,"end":2314},"Also, weiß ich nicht, aber ich würde da, glaube ich, schon widersprechen und sagen, ich glaube auch die gut io ist son bisschen in der Mainstream Presse angekommen, weil ich hab jetzt auch im Nachgang zur letzten io dieses, wow, Google baut die Suche und alles wird irgendwie ganz anders und so, das war überall zu lesen irgendwie ne?",{"sentences":23798,"speaker":126,"num_words":23676,"start":2314,"end":2494},[23799,23801,23803,23805,23807],{"text":23800,"start":2314,"end":2325},"Ja ja ja.",{"text":23802,"start":2325,"end":2369},"Also das ist heute einen ähnlichen, vielleicht sogar größeren Stellenwert hat, ja.",{"text":23804,"start":2369,"end":2386},"Ich meine nur so von der Historie.",{"text":23806,"start":2390,"end":2432},"Weiß nicht, gibt ja nicht jetzt so viele also mittlerweile die großen machen das irgendwie.",{"text":23808,"start":2432,"end":2494},"Also es gibt die WC von Apple, es gibt die Microsoft Bild heißt die glaube ich oder die Microsoft Konferenz.",{"sentences":23810,"speaker":126,"num_words":23819,"start":2494,"end":2599},[23811,23813,23815,23817],{"text":23812,"start":2494,"end":2551},"Es gibt die Google I o und keine Ahnung, wahrscheinlich kann man auch irgendwie sagen ABS, wie heißen die die?",{"text":23814,"start":2551,"end":2574},"Gibt's auch so Days irgendwas, ne?",{"text":23816,"start":2574,"end":2592},"Gibt's auch son eigenes Update?",{"text":23818,"start":2592,"end":2599},"Es gibt",33,{"sentences":23821,"speaker":563,"num_words":23647,"start":2599,"end":2618},[23822,23824],{"text":23823,"start":2599,"end":2608},"das den ABS.",{"text":23825,"start":2612,"end":2618},"ABS Summit",{"sentences":23827,"speaker":146,"num_words":23647,"start":2622,"end":2637},[23828],{"text":23829,"start":2622,"end":2637},"und Summit und sowas, ja.",{"sentences":23831,"speaker":126,"num_words":23836,"start":2637,"end":2687},[23832,23834],{"text":23833,"start":2637,"end":2669},"Aber da gibt's doch eine große, die auch einen Namen hat.",{"text":23835,"start":2669,"end":2687},"Das ist der ABS Summit dann?",17,{"sentences":23838,"speaker":146,"num_words":23647,"start":2692,"end":2709},[23839],{"text":23840,"start":2692,"end":2709},"Nein, ist doch Reegnight oder?",{"sentences":23842,"speaker":126,"num_words":563,"start":2713,"end":2719},[23843],{"text":23844,"start":2713,"end":2719},"Reag Knight?",{"sentences":23846,"speaker":146,"num_words":563,"start":2723,"end":2729},[23847],{"text":23848,"start":2723,"end":2729},"Kann sein.",{"sentences":23850,"speaker":563,"num_words":563,"start":2733,"end":2740},[23851,23852],{"text":913,"start":2733,"end":2734},{"text":2741,"start":2739,"end":2740},{"sentences":23854,"speaker":126,"num_words":23859,"start":2740,"end":2805},[23855,23857],{"text":23856,"start":2740,"end":2752},"ja, also ne so.",{"text":23858,"start":2756,"end":2805},"Was gibt's da noch wann oder wer wer seid einigen Adobe, Max oder so Ja,",19,{"sentences":23861,"speaker":146,"num_words":23872,"start":2809,"end":2910},[23862,23864,23866,23868,23870],{"text":23863,"start":2809,"end":2827},"Egal, ob's wieder Microsoft oder sowas.",{"text":23865,"start":2827,"end":2840},"Aber das ist alles.",{"text":23867,"start":2840,"end":2873},"Wir 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lange, also Du warst warst Du nur für die Konferenz da?",{"text":23890,"start":3127,"end":3153},"11 Stunden hin und zurückgeflogen für 2 Tage Event?",22,{"sentences":23893,"speaker":563,"num_words":23904,"start":3157,"end":3458},[23894,23896,23898,23900,23902],{"text":23895,"start":3157,"end":3175},"Ja, kam ja leider, ja.",{"text":23897,"start":3177,"end":3235},"Ich hab's Meine Planung war nicht optimal und das Problem war, dass es eher so eine Lastwende Entscheidung war.",{"text":23899,"start":3235,"end":3283},"Ich hab mich, glaube ich, 2 oder 3 Wochen vor der Konferenz entschieden, jetzt doch zu gehen.",{"text":23901,"start":3283,"end":3340},"Weil eigentlich dachte ich auch dieses Jahr wieder, nee, so lange fliegen, so weit reisen, für die paar Tage eher nicht.",{"text":23903,"start":3342,"end":3458},"Dann hab ich mich aber umentschieden, weil zum einen klar die Konferenz, aber zum anderen ist ja auch so, dass ich bei Hackenface jetzt arbeite, seit letztem Oktober und ich seither meinen Teamkameraden gar nicht mehr gesehen hatte live.",101,{"sentences":23906,"speaker":563,"num_words":23913,"start":3458,"end":3733},[23907,23909,23911],{"text":23908,"start":3458,"end":3615},"Wir haben es vorher mal getroffen gehabt, aber seitdem eigentlich nicht mehr und dann haben wir gedacht, es wäre doch ein gutes, ja, ein guter Event, uns mal wieder zu treffen und dann habe ich das halt Ja, es wurde auch eingeladen, also unabhängig von mir und deswegen haben wir das also als kleines Teammeeting mitgenommen.",{"text":23910,"start":3618,"end":3636},"Ja und deswegen hatte ich auch nur 3 Tage.",{"text":23912,"start":3636,"end":3733},"Das heißt, ich bin am Montag bin ich hingeflogen, dann waren 2 Tage Konferenz, ein Tag noch San Francisco und noch sone Io After Party und dann am Freitag schon wieder zurück.",97,{"sentences":23915,"speaker":146,"num_words":23642,"start":3736,"end":3791},[23916,23918,23919],{"text":23917,"start":3736,"end":3756},"Okay, das klingt nach 'nem straffen Programm.",{"text":3765,"start":3761,"end":3762},{"text":23920,"start":3762,"end":3791},"Was in den 3 Tagen hat dir besonders gut gefallen?",{"sentences":23922,"speaker":563,"num_words":23933,"start":3794,"end":4009},[23923,23925,23927,23929,23931],{"text":23924,"start":3794,"end":3818},"Erst mal, ich fand die Konferenz ziemlich eindrücklich.",{"text":23926,"start":3822,"end":3833},"Sie ist nicht riesig.",{"text":23928,"start":3833,"end":3884},"Ich glaube, es sind zwischen fünf- bis 7000 Entwickler*innen werden erwartet oder werden jedes eingeladen.",{"text":23930,"start":3888,"end":3923},"Was erst mal viel klingt, aber das die ganze Location ist halt riesig.",{"text":23932,"start":3925,"end":4009},"Du hast diese großes Amphitheater, wo die ja Keynotes sind und so, aber rundherum ist einfach 'n riesen Gelände mit den anderen Stages, mit allem möglichen.",66,{"sentences":23935,"speaker":563,"num_words":23942,"start":4009,"end":4279},[23936,23938,23940],{"text":23937,"start":4009,"end":4095},"Das heißt, es ist alles sehr weitläufig und ich hätte jetzt nie, hätte ich schätzen müssen, hätte ich gedacht, sind vielleicht so 2000 sowas, was halt wirklich alles so weitläufig ist.",{"text":23939,"start":4097,"end":4249},"Eben die Größe hat mich überrascht und weiß es nicht, die Sessions Es waren nicht viel Neues, abgesehen von diesen großen Gemini Announcements natürlich, aber die finde ich persönlich jetzt nicht so spannend, weil für mich ist alles, was so im Web passiert oder auch in On Device oder Open Open AI.",{"text":23941,"start":4254,"end":4279},"Sorry, nicht Open AI, sondern Open World Modellen.",91,{"sentences":23944,"speaker":146,"num_words":23781,"start":4283,"end":4307},[23945,23947],{"text":23946,"start":4283,"end":4303},"Das war ein Zeichen die Idee.",{"text":1362,"start":4303,"end":4307},{"sentences":23949,"speaker":563,"num_words":23955,"start":4310,"end":4409},[23950,23952,23954],{"text":23951,"start":4310,"end":4346},"Ist für mich halt spannender, aber da ist nicht viel Neues jetzt announced worden.",{"text":23953,"start":4346,"end":4406},"Das waren mehr so Dinge, die schon länger bekannt waren, die sie jetzt noch mal zusammengefasst haben, was auch auch schön ist.",{"text":670,"start":4408,"end":4409},37,{"sentences":23957,"speaker":126,"num_words":23744,"start":4411,"end":4431},[23958],{"text":23959,"start":4411,"end":4431},"Ist das in Googles eigenen Räumlichkeiten?",{"sentences":23961,"speaker":563,"num_words":23966,"start":4435,"end":4757},[23962,23964],{"text":23963,"start":4435,"end":4536},"Ich glaub, dieses Shore Line Amphitheater bin ich mir gar nicht sicher, aber ich hab es jetzt nur in Zusammenhang mit Google gesehen und es ist auch direkt neben diesem großen Google Visita Center.",{"text":23965,"start":4539,"end":4757},"Und eben in dem Sinne keine Räumlichkeiten, sondern es ist alles eine große Fläche und dann hast Du halt diese Main Stage und dann überall sind große Zelte aufgestellt, wo die einzelnen Stages dann sehen, dass es okay, es gibt eine Cloud Stage, es gab eine AR Stage, es gab eine Android Stage, eine Chrome Stage und dann noch so kleinere kleinere Stände, wo zum Beispiel auch Waymo ihr neues Auto vorgestellt hatte und solche Sachen.",110,{"sentences":23968,"speaker":126,"num_words":23972,"start":4760,"end":4837},[23969,23970],{"text":913,"start":4760,"end":4761},{"text":23971,"start":4761,"end":4837},"Und das ist ja viel Autor, das heißt, die haben die einfach 100 Prozent Sonne, also oder ist einfach ausgeschlossen, dass da regnet zu der Zeit?",27,{"sentences":23974,"speaker":563,"num_words":23872,"start":4841,"end":4935},[23975,23977,23979],{"text":23976,"start":4841,"end":4888},"Weiß ich nicht, also bei uns jetzt die Tage war es warm und sonnig, also fast schon zu warm.",{"text":23978,"start":4891,"end":4923},"Ich nehme mal an, Sie rechnen ganz stark mit schönem Wetter.",{"text":23980,"start":4926,"end":4935},"Ich weiß nicht, wie",{"sentences":23982,"speaker":126,"num_words":23987,"start":4935,"end":5110},[23983,23985],{"text":23984,"start":4935,"end":5033},"die Ja, ich, weil die frag mich immer bei diesem, weil bei dem Amphitheater, das sieht man ja auch immer in den Streams und so, frage ich mich immer, was würden die denn jetzt machen?",{"text":23986,"start":5033,"end":5110},"Also haben die genauso einfach elendig große Location, wo die reinlaufen können und ob das ob das wirklich einfach so stabil ist das Wetter, dass man das absehen kann.",64,{"sentences":23989,"speaker":563,"num_words":23724,"start":5114,"end":5128},[23990,23992],{"text":23991,"start":5114,"end":5123},"Ich denke Zweiteres.",{"text":913,"start":5127,"end":5128},{"sentences":23994,"speaker":146,"num_words":23942,"start":5130,"end":5390},[23995,23997,23998,24000,24002],{"text":23996,"start":5130,"end":5197},"Ich glaub auch Zweiteres und Sie würden im Zweifelsfall dann einfach einen Tag vorher noch mehr Pavillons dann wahrscheinlich über alles drüber spannen oder so was.",{"text":670,"start":5201,"end":5202},{"text":23999,"start":5202,"end":5274},"Aber ja, ich mein, ich hab's mir eben grad noch mal auf der Karte angeguckt, es ist halt schon auch einfach Googles Vorgarten, so, ne.",{"text":24001,"start":5274,"end":5324},"Also das ist schon ein Theater gehört nicht offiziell zu Google, aber alles drumherum halt eigentlich schon.",{"text":24003,"start":5328,"end":5390},"Also im Zweifelsfall hätten Sie wahrscheinlich auch irgend eine Location in der Laufweite, wo Sie das notdürftig auch irgendwie unterbringen könnten, so.",{"sentences":24005,"speaker":563,"num_words":24015,"start":5392,"end":5598},[24006,24008,24010,24011,24013],{"text":24007,"start":5392,"end":5412},"Weiß ich jetzt nicht, weil es ist halt schon viel.",{"text":24009,"start":5415,"end":5494},"Also Sie haben alles, was Sie rundherum aufgebaut haben, das baut man nicht einfach mal schnell ab und baut's eine Woche vor einem anderen Ort wieder auf, denke ich jetzt mal.",{"text":670,"start":5497,"end":5498},{"text":24012,"start":5498,"end":5511},"Ich ich hab's Ja.",{"text":24014,"start":5513,"end":5598},"Eher das Gefühl, wenn in der Jahreszeit schlechtes Wetter wär, also wirklich richtig schlecht, dann, weil irgendein Unwetter oder irgendwas ist, wo sie sowieso dann kurzfristig absagen müssen.",74,{"sentences":24017,"speaker":563,"num_words":24022,"start":5598,"end":5689},[24018,24020],{"text":24019,"start":5598,"end":5616},"Keine Ahnung, wie sie's machen würden.",{"text":24021,"start":5619,"end":5689},"Ich hatte jetzt auch, ich hab die die Keynotes hab ich eigentlich immer geschaut und ich wüsste jetzt auch nicht, dass jemals schlechtes Wetter gewesen wäre von dem her.",35,{"sentences":24024,"speaker":126,"num_words":126,"start":5689,"end":5692},[24025],{"text":937,"start":5689,"end":5692},{"sentences":24027,"speaker":146,"num_words":24033,"start":5692,"end":5819},[24028,24029,24031],{"text":5699,"start":5692,"end":5696},{"text":24030,"start":5696,"end":5747},"Also ich hab die Leute auch schon immer irgendwie im Showland Theater sitzen sehen, also seitdem sie's dann machen.",{"text":24032,"start":5747,"end":5819},"Und es ist eher so, dass die Leute da hinschmelzen, wenn Du denen irgendwie zuguckst, wenn da mal son Kameraschwenk übers Publikum irgendwie kommt.",44,{"sentences":24035,"speaker":563,"num_words":24033,"start":5822,"end":5951},[24036,24038,24040],{"text":24037,"start":5822,"end":5831},"Das war so lustig.",{"text":24039,"start":5834,"end":5898},"Am ersten Tag ist ja erst die Keynote am am Vormittag und dann ab, ich glaub, 2 oder 3 ist die Developer Keynote.",{"text":24041,"start":5902,"end":5951},"Und Du hast halt dieses Shorlin Theater hat sone große, ein großes Sonnensegel, aber gegen den Nachmittag",{"sentences":24043,"speaker":146,"num_words":23647,"start":5954,"end":5964},[24044],{"text":24045,"start":5954,"end":5964},"Aber nur für die Sonne",{"sentences":24047,"speaker":563,"num_words":563,"start":5964,"end":5972},[24048],{"text":24049,"start":5964,"end":5972},"immer so.",{"sentences":24051,"speaker":146,"num_words":563,"start":5972,"end":5979},[24052],{"text":24053,"start":5972,"end":5979},"Also, oder?",{"sentences":24055,"speaker":563,"num_words":24066,"start":5982,"end":6427},[24056,24058,24060,24062,24064],{"text":24057,"start":5982,"end":6021},"Ja, jein und am Morgen eigentlich für am Morgen ist eigentlich alles schön im Schatten.",{"text":24059,"start":6025,"end":6085},"Aber je höher die Sonne ist oder je weit es nach hinten runterfällt, desto mehr, also Reihe für Reihe kommt halt die Sonne.",{"text":24061,"start":6085,"end":6216},"Mal wirklich so gesehen, weil wir sind wir sind relativ weit vorne gesessen bei der Developer Keynote und haben wir wirklich so gesehen, alle 10 Minuten war die Sonne ein Reihe weiter und die ganze Reihe ist aufgestanden, hat sich irgendwo probiert, an den Rändern zu verteilen.",{"text":24063,"start":6220,"end":6380},"Und dann, also bei uns war, war wirklich auch so, ah, weiß ich jetzt nicht, aber so mit Pullover übern Kopf und so ging's dann eigentlich und es war dann auch nur noch sone 20 Minuten, halbe Stunde haben wir gefunden, hey komm, das halten wir jetzt noch aus, weil im Schatten hat es keinen Platz mehr.",{"text":24065,"start":6380,"end":6427},"Aber gerade der erste Tag war ultra heiß und hab ich auf jeden Fall genug Sonne abbekommen.",159,{"sentences":24068,"speaker":146,"num_words":23657,"start":6430,"end":6617},[24069,24071,24073],{"text":24070,"start":6430,"end":6461},"Das ist schon immer so das Miese an diesem San Francisco Wetter, ne.",{"text":24072,"start":6461,"end":6499},"Ich meine auch, also Mountain View San Francisco ist ja quasi klimatisch gleich.",{"text":24074,"start":6503,"end":6617},"Dass es morgens halt doch schon immer so frisch ist, dass Du irgendwie doch 'n Pulli mitnehmen musst oder so oder Angst hast, eine Jacke mitnehmen zu müssen und mittags schmilzt Du einfach so dahin und dann brauchst Du abends wieder Schichten drüber.",{"sentences":24076,"speaker":126,"num_words":23620,"start":6620,"end":6626},[24077],{"text":24078,"start":6620,"end":6626},"Ja und ich",{"sentences":24080,"speaker":563,"num_words":23642,"start":6626,"end":6672},[24081],{"text":24082,"start":6626,"end":6672},"glaub im Silicon Valley speziell ist es noch mal 'n paar Grad wärmer als in San Francisco vorne.",{"sentences":24084,"speaker":146,"num_words":207,"start":6675,"end":6708},[24085],{"text":24086,"start":6675,"end":6708},"Ja, also Du bist ja eigentlich mehr Luft einfach dann auch, ja.",{"sentences":24088,"speaker":563,"num_words":23884,"start":6710,"end":6846},[24089],{"text":24090,"start":6710,"end":6846},"Genau und Du bist vom Meer bist Du ja abgetrennt durch diese Hügelkette und dann hast Du einfach dieses eine Tal, weil einfach die Sonne rein rein brennt und San Francisco oben ist ja schön so an direktem Meer, direkt am Meer und da war's am letzten Tag eher sogar kühl.",{"sentences":24092,"speaker":126,"num_words":24099,"start":6849,"end":7049},[24093,24095,24097],{"text":24094,"start":6849,"end":6948},"Und ist es so platzmäßig, wenn wir gerade noch bei bei der Keynote und den dem MP Theater sind, passen da alle rein oder muss man irgendwie möglichst früh da sein, gute Plätze zu bekommen?",{"text":24096,"start":6948,"end":6975},"Wie fühlt es sich so an von der Fülle oder?",{"text":24098,"start":6975,"end":7049},"Ich mein, Du hast gesagt, das sind nur 2000 Leute, als war es auch so, dass es sehr angenehm war, dass man das nicht irgendwie überfüllt war die ganze Zeit.",75,{"sentences":24101,"speaker":563,"num_words":696,"start":7053,"end":7211},[24102,24104,24106],{"text":24103,"start":7053,"end":7146},"Also es gab bei der Keynote, ich bin relativ knapp gekommen, weil ich hatte den Rush Hour 'n bisschen unterschätzt und hatte dann erst befürchtet, dass ich wohl bei der Keynote keinen Platz mehr finde.",{"text":24105,"start":7150,"end":7175},"Aber gerade in den oberen Rängen hatte man eigentlich immer Platz.",{"text":24107,"start":7175,"end":7211},"Das ist eigentlich, also auch in der Keynote hatte, hat es genügend Platz.",{"sentences":24109,"speaker":146,"num_words":24113,"start":7213,"end":7313},[24110,24111],{"text":670,"start":7213,"end":7214},{"text":24112,"start":7214,"end":7313},"Und von der sängenden Hitze, mal abgesehen, gab's irgendwas, was tatsächlich in der Kontrolle von Google lag, wo Du sagst, okay, das hätten sie irgendwie 'n bisschen besser organisieren können oder besser machen können während der Veranstaltung?",38,{"sentences":24115,"speaker":563,"num_words":24126,"start":7317,"end":7599},[24116,24118,24120,24122,24124],{"text":24117,"start":7317,"end":7327},"Hey, ehrlich gesagt nicht.",{"text":24119,"start":7329,"end":7353},"Also es war eher, ich war bei allem eher positiv überrascht.",{"text":24121,"start":7356,"end":7378},"Also grad die Eingangskontrollen waren nie irgendwie Wartezeiten.",{"text":24123,"start":7383,"end":7509},"Essensausgabe war einfach ein ellenlanger Tisch, wo überall eigentlich das Gleiche war und man konnte sich einfach einen sone eine Bowl mit was auch immer, so verschiedene Angeboten oder verschiedene Bowls im Angebot, kommen sie einfach einholen und es gab nie eine Schlange.",{"text":24125,"start":7509,"end":7599},"Also eigentlich gab's bei nichts eine Schlange, außer in der Mitte von der Google Io ist son oder war son großer eine große Halle, 'n Riesenzelt, wo man neue Produkte testen konnte.",98,{"sentences":24128,"speaker":563,"num_words":24131,"start":7599,"end":7644},[24129],{"text":24130,"start":7599,"end":7644},"Also zum Beispiel das Geney konnte man testen oder diese, wie heißt die, diese Google Brille,",16,{"sentences":24133,"speaker":126,"num_words":126,"start":7648,"end":7649},[24134],{"text":3765,"start":7648,"end":7649},{"sentences":24136,"speaker":563,"num_words":752,"start":7652,"end":7826},[24137,24139,24141],{"text":24138,"start":7652,"end":7704},"Die jetzt dann, glaube ich, mal rauskommt, die Zusammenarbeit mit diesen beiden Designern Und dort musste man anstehen.",{"text":24140,"start":7707,"end":7775},"Aber das war auch klar, weil es gab bei diesen Brillen, ich glaub, sie hatten 5 Brillen, die man testen konnte und jeder wollte sie halt testen.",{"text":24142,"start":7778,"end":7826},"Und ich glaub, ich bin 20 Minuten oder so angestanden, aber was ich auch relativ kurzweilig angefühlt hatte.",{"sentences":24144,"speaker":146,"num_words":23719,"start":7829,"end":7845},[24145],{"text":24146,"start":7829,"end":7845},"Ich wollte sagen, das ist jetzt auch noch",{"sentences":24148,"speaker":563,"num_words":563,"start":7845,"end":7851},[24149],{"text":24150,"start":7845,"end":7851},"nicht so",{"sentences":24152,"speaker":146,"num_words":23697,"start":7851,"end":7880},[24153],{"text":24154,"start":7851,"end":7880},"schlimm irgendwie 20 Minuten und war Wie war die Brille?",{"sentences":24156,"speaker":563,"num_words":24166,"start":7883,"end":8121},[24157,24158,24160,24162,24164],{"text":7887,"start":7883,"end":7884},{"text":24159,"start":7889,"end":7942},"Ich glaub nicht, dass es Das Problem ist, die Brille im Moment ist halt alles, was sieht auf visuellen Inputs.",{"text":24161,"start":7942,"end":8010},"Heißt halt eine Kamera und Du hast die App auf deinem Handy und die App kommuniziert dann halt mit Germanine in der Cloud und so.",{"text":24163,"start":8012,"end":8076},"Aber wenn Du irgendwas fragst, dann macht halt 'n Bild mit der Kamera, das Bild wird ausgewertet und dann sagt sie, was es gesehen hat.",{"text":24165,"start":8076,"end":8121},"Also Du kannst dann fragen, hey, welche Bücher sind dort im Regal oder was auch immer?",87,{"sentences":24168,"speaker":563,"num_words":24179,"start":8125,"end":8549},[24169,24171,24173,24175,24177],{"text":24170,"start":8125,"end":8173},"Und dann machst Du halt 'n Bild, wertet's aus und dann sagt's dir, gibt's ja Audio Feedback.",{"text":24172,"start":8176,"end":8322},"Und das ist noch cool, weil Du hast im Bügel drin ist son Lautsprecher und das heißt, es geht nicht ins Ohr rein, sondern wirklich so neben dem Ohr wird das halt ausgegeben und man versteht wirklich gut auch in 'nem Raum, wo viele Leute sind, versteht man wirklich gut, was was die Brille einem sagt.",{"text":24174,"start":8325,"end":8367},"Das Problem ist aber, weil halt alles auf visuellem Feedback basiert, hast halt immer die Kamera.",{"text":24176,"start":8371,"end":8454},"Und ich hab ehrlich gesagt gefühlt, dass die Kamera der größte oder das größte Problem wird, wenn's drum geht, dass so in der Gesellschaft eine gewisse Akzeptanz für diese Brillen aufgebaut werden soll.",{"text":24178,"start":8457,"end":8549},"Weil sobald Du halt mit der Kamera im Kopf rumläufst, ja, es hat 'n kleines 'n kleines Licht an der Seite, wo Du siehst, sobald sie aktiv ist, sieht jeder, okay, die Kamera ist aktiv.",157,{"sentences":24181,"speaker":563,"num_words":24192,"start":8549,"end":8857},[24182,24184,24186,24188,24190],{"text":24183,"start":8549,"end":8607},"Von dem her, wenn das Licht nicht aktiv ist, dann sollte man auch davon ausgehen, dass keine Mittel aufgenommen werden und so.",{"text":24185,"start":8610,"end":8663},"Aber ich habe das Gefühl, wenn Du mit 'ner Kamera rumläufst, dann es schreckt die Menschen Mitmenschen ab.",{"text":24187,"start":8666,"end":8712},"Deswegen glaube ich nicht, dass das jetzt der letzte die letzte Iterationsstufe ist, die zum Durchbruch führt.",{"text":24189,"start":8715,"end":8808},"Ich finde das mit dem Audio echt cool, aber ich glaube, was die Wahrnehmung angeht, müssen Sie oder sind Sie sicher schon dann neue Sachen ausprobieren, weil das mit der Kamera finde ich jetzt nicht so toll.",{"text":24191,"start":8812,"end":8857},"Aber sonst so Look and feel, das ist auch nicht irgendwie schwer oder irgendwie unangenehm oder so.",111,{"sentences":24194,"speaker":563,"num_words":23771,"start":8857,"end":8890},[24195],{"text":24196,"start":8857,"end":8890},"Also ist ja wirklich, sie sie sie ist nicht sie ist nicht schlecht.",{"sentences":24198,"speaker":146,"num_words":24205,"start":8893,"end":9038},[24199,24201,24203],{"text":24200,"start":8893,"end":8919},"Und ehrlicherweise auch das erste Mal son bisschen ansehnlich, ja.",{"text":24202,"start":8919,"end":9026},"Also wenn man sich das anguckt, was so Snapchat da gemacht hat oder Meta gemacht hat, da ist glaube ich, Warbie Parker hat schon irgendwie mehr, trifft mehr mein ästhetisches Empfinden als diese ganzen anderen Marken bisher irgendwie.",{"text":24204,"start":9029,"end":9038},"Wobei die Wobei die",52,{"sentences":24207,"speaker":563,"num_words":563,"start":9040,"end":9044},[24208],{"text":24209,"start":9040,"end":9044},"jetzt schon",{"sentences":24211,"speaker":126,"num_words":23647,"start":9044,"end":9056},[24212],{"text":24213,"start":9044,"end":9056},"auch 'n bisschen Bild aussieht.",{"sentences":24215,"speaker":146,"num_words":222,"start":9059,"end":9098},[24216],{"text":24217,"start":9059,"end":9098},"Ja, aber mit Robbie Parkcast hat so ein bisschen Mainstream schon irgendwie drin, so.",{"sentences":24219,"speaker":126,"num_words":563,"start":9101,"end":9107},[24220,24221],{"text":670,"start":9101,"end":9102},{"text":670,"start":9106,"end":9107},{"sentences":24223,"speaker":563,"num_words":24228,"start":9107,"end":9176},[24224,24226],{"text":24225,"start":9107,"end":9152},"Die, die ich getestet hab, die waren, das war so ein normaler Prototypen Frame.",{"text":24227,"start":9152,"end":9176},"Also es war nicht die, die jetzt an den",23,{"sentences":24230,"speaker":146,"num_words":563,"start":9176,"end":9182},[24231],{"text":24232,"start":9176,"end":9182},"Verkauf geht.",{"sentences":24234,"speaker":563,"num_words":24240,"start":9186,"end":9321},[24235,24237,24239],{"text":24236,"start":9186,"end":9275},"Und ich glaube auch, die, die jetzt in den Verkauf gibt, hat kein Display, wenn ich's richtig im Kopf hab, weil die, die ich probiert hatte, hat noch so im rechten Glas 'n Display, was auch Ja.",{"text":24238,"start":9277,"end":9317},"Noch cool ist, weil das so 'n kleines Display war, wo die Informationen angezeigt werden können.",{"text":9322,"start":9320,"end":9321},54,{"sentences":24242,"speaker":146,"num_words":24245,"start":9321,"end":9418},[24243],{"text":24244,"start":9321,"end":9418},"Ja, das ist ja cool, weil da das das hätte ich auch bemängelt, dass das so fehlt, aber wenn's da zumindest 'n Prototyp mit gibt, dann vielleicht kann ja die zweite Iteration oder sowas das tun.",36,{"sentences":24247,"speaker":126,"num_words":24254,"start":9418,"end":9645},[24248,24250,24252],{"text":24249,"start":9418,"end":9508},"Sie haben sogar, Sie hatten in der Kinot relativ klar gesagt, also es gibt die die Audio und die, also gab sogar Namen für für die 2 Sachen, die anderen kommen 'n bisschen später raus.",{"text":24251,"start":9508,"end":9548},"Und Sie haben ja auch gesagt, dass diese 2 Modelle 2 sind von 1 großen Kollektion.",{"text":24253,"start":9551,"end":9645},"Das hat man nämlich auch in der Folge dazu 'n bisschen kritisiert, dass es dann nur die 2 gibt, aber es soll auch praktisch dann zum Launch schon viele verschiedene Brillenmodelle geben und nicht nur die 2.",88,{"sentences":24256,"speaker":563,"num_words":23724,"start":9649,"end":9660},[24257,24259],{"text":24258,"start":9649,"end":9655},"Ah, okay.",{"text":24260,"start":9655,"end":9660},"Ja, vielleicht",{"sentences":24262,"speaker":146,"num_words":23719,"start":9660,"end":9679},[24263],{"text":24264,"start":9660,"end":9679},"muss man sich das doch noch mal anschauen.",{"sentences":24266,"speaker":563,"num_words":23620,"start":9682,"end":9688},[24267],{"text":24268,"start":9682,"end":9688},"Ich bin noch",{"sentences":24270,"speaker":146,"num_words":23647,"start":9690,"end":9705},[24271],{"text":24272,"start":9690,"end":9705},"Ich bin noch Kommt drauf",{"sentences":24274,"speaker":126,"num_words":207,"start":9705,"end":9736},[24275],{"text":24276,"start":9705,"end":9736},"kommt drauf an, was Spark dann noch so macht in der Zukunft.",{"sentences":24278,"speaker":146,"num_words":24281,"start":9739,"end":9816},[24279],{"text":24280,"start":9739,"end":9816},"Gut, abseits von Brillen, die es wahrscheinlich, weiß gar nicht, Dennis, wird sie bei uns auch geben oder ist es wieder erst mal son kannst Du in Amerika kaufen Ding?",30,{"sentences":24283,"speaker":126,"num_words":24294,"start":9820,"end":9971},[24284,24286,24288,24290,24292],{"text":24285,"start":9820,"end":9866},"Ich weiß es nicht, aber da ich zumindest Spark gerade angerufen habe, dass Du es auf gesagt habe.",{"text":24287,"start":9866,"end":9879},"Ich weiß nicht, keine Ahnung.",{"text":24289,"start":9879,"end":9948},"Ich glaub, es gab es gab's noch keine Informationen, aber es soll ja auch erst im Herbst in den USA kommen, von daher oder generell kommen, von daher.",{"text":24291,"start":9948,"end":9959},"Gucken wir mal.",{"text":24293,"start":9959,"end":9971},"Warten wir mal ab.",58,{"sentences":24296,"speaker":146,"num_words":24301,"start":9973,"end":10051},[24297,24299],{"text":24298,"start":9973,"end":10007},"Dann sprechen wir über andere Sachen, die vielleicht nicht so lange auf sich warten lassen.",{"text":24300,"start":10010,"end":10051},"Welche Sessions haben dich noch besonders beeindruckt, Nico, oder fandest Du besonders interessant empfehlenswert?",29,{"sentences":24303,"speaker":563,"num_words":24314,"start":10055,"end":10457},[24304,24306,24308,24310,24312],{"text":24305,"start":10055,"end":10169},"Ich fand jetzt nicht unbedingt vom Inhalt, aber rein von der ganzen Aufmache her, die Keynotes beide, also die Hauptkeynote und auch die Developer Keynote, die waren beide megagut, weil halt Man man gemerkt einfach, es ist enorm einstudiert.",{"text":24307,"start":10173,"end":10214},"So die Slides, die Animationen in den Slides zusammen mit dem Speaker, der Speakerin.",{"text":24309,"start":10218,"end":10264},"Das ist alles wirklich aus einem Guss und war wirklich mega faszinierend, wie sie das gemacht haben.",{"text":24311,"start":10267,"end":10415},"Das fand ich echt cool und dann halt, weiß gar nicht, waren paar Sessions, also gerade die Jämmer Sessions, eine Session, die war so zu Jämmer 4 und eine Session war eher so zu generell on device mit mit Jemma 4, die fand ich auch spannend, weil sie halt mehr so in meinem Interessensbereich liegen.",{"text":24313,"start":10418,"end":10457},"Aber wenn ich jetzt 1 picken würde, dann auf jeden Fall die Animation in den Slides.",141,{"sentences":24316,"speaker":563,"num_words":126,"start":10460,"end":10461},[24317],{"text":3765,"start":10460,"end":10461},{"sentences":24319,"speaker":126,"num_words":24325,"start":10464,"end":10617},[24320,24321,24323],{"text":670,"start":10464,"end":10465},{"text":24322,"start":10465,"end":10561},"Ist es so, ich glaub, das schreibt sich Google ja viel auf die Fahne, dass man oder was ja auch ein Sinn dieser Entwickler*innenkonferenzen ist, dass man so den Kontakt hat zu den Leuten, die die Sachen tatsächlich bauen.",{"text":24324,"start":10566,"end":10617},"Hattest Du das Gefühl, dass dort viele Googler unterwegs waren und dass man auch die Möglichkeit hat, da mit denen zu sprechen?",62,{"sentences":24327,"speaker":563,"num_words":24338,"start":10621,"end":10889},[24328,24330,24332,24334,24336],{"text":24329,"start":10621,"end":10630},"Ja, auf jeden Fall.",{"text":24331,"start":10633,"end":10732},"Also es war so, dass eigentlich, Du hattest so außerhalb von diesen Produktboots waren überall Stände, wo halt die Leute, weiß es nicht, ob es die Entwickler*innen oder mehr so, die aus dem Deffrell waren, gesessen sind.",{"text":24333,"start":10732,"end":10772},"Mit dem kommt man eigentlich voll, also waren war 'n super Austausch.",{"text":24335,"start":10776,"end":10859},"Gerade bei beim Chrome Stand waren es auch Fall Leute, die ich schon kannte und da war es mehr so einen Wiedersehen so von Leuten, die ich sonst so aus der Community kenne.",{"text":24337,"start":10862,"end":10889},"Aber gerade bei AI habe ich übrigens 'n Philipp kennengelernt.",96,{"sentences":24340,"speaker":126,"num_words":23620,"start":10893,"end":10902},[24341],{"text":24342,"start":10893,"end":10902},"Also Sehr gut.",{"sentences":24344,"speaker":563,"num_words":24349,"start":10905,"end":11069},[24345,24347],{"text":24346,"start":10905,"end":10969},"Ich wusste natürlich, wer wer er ist aus dem aus dem Was programmierbar, aber ich hätte ihn jetzt noch nie noch nie mit ihm geredet.",{"text":24348,"start":10969,"end":11069},"Ihn hatte ich per Zufall an seinem Stand dann kennengelernt, so wie auch sonst viele Leute, die ich über online immer wieder im Austausch war, die ich jetzt halt dann mal live gesehen hatte oder live mit Ihnen sprechen konnte.",65,{"sentences":24351,"speaker":146,"num_words":24361,"start":11071,"end":11420},[24352,24353,24355,24357,24359],{"text":11075,"start":11071,"end":11072},{"text":24354,"start":11077,"end":11108},"Weil Du vorhin gesagt hast, wie wie wie polished diese Präsentation war.",{"text":24356,"start":11108,"end":11143},"Ich hab dir auch beide gesehen, also sowohl die Keynote als auch die Developer Keynote.",{"text":24358,"start":11145,"end":11271},"Und also ich glaube, man muss schon neidlos anerkennen, dass das alles sehr hohen production Value so hat, was sie da tun, aber ich tu mir da manchmal schwer oder andersrum, ich find's 'n bisschen schwierig manchmal beim Zuschauen, wenn so ein studierter Humor auf der Bühne ist.",{"text":24360,"start":11273,"end":11420},"Also gerade, ich glaub in der Developer Keynote, als da Sunday auf der Bühne war, ganz am Anfang und dann mit seinen Nanobanana Bildern irgendwie rum gemacht hat, wo seine Hobbys gezeigt hat und wie er im Weltraum unterwegs ist, da irgendwie die Data Centers im Weltraum zu installieren und so.",127,{"sentences":24363,"speaker":146,"num_words":24368,"start":11420,"end":11528},[24364,24366],{"text":24365,"start":11420,"end":11436},"Ja, das ist schon lustig, Ja.",{"text":24367,"start":11439,"end":11528},"Aber es wirkt halt son bisschen unlustiger, weil er halt genau diese 5 Sätze sagt, wo Du genau weißt, die hat ihm jemand irgendwie dazu mitgegeben und ist son bisschen unorganisch dann irgendwie rübergekommen.",40,{"sentences":24370,"speaker":563,"num_words":23676,"start":11532,"end":11689},[24371,24373,24375,24377],{"text":24372,"start":11532,"end":11617},"Am schlimmsten finde ich, wenn 2 miteinander eine Konversation haben, die eine studiert war son kleines sich necken auf der Bühne und Du weißt, die haben genau den Satz fünfzigmal gesagt.",{"text":24374,"start":11620,"end":11655},"Und so einen, oh ja, und das war bei doch bei dir auch so.",{"text":24376,"start":11658,"end":11668},"Gut, dass Du's sagst.",{"text":24378,"start":11668,"end":11689},"Ja, es war nämlich genau, oh, komm schon.",{"sentences":24380,"speaker":126,"num_words":23891,"start":11691,"end":11760},[24381,24382,24384],{"text":670,"start":11691,"end":11692},{"text":24383,"start":11696,"end":11755},"Oft sieht man ja irgendwo, findet man den Teleprompter, kann son bisschen abgleichen bei den orchestrierten Veranstaltungen da von denen.",{"text":670,"start":11759,"end":11760},{"sentences":24386,"speaker":146,"num_words":24397,"start":11762,"end":12191},[24387,24389,24391,24393,24395],{"text":24388,"start":11762,"end":11859},"Ja, ich bin mir da nie so ganz sicher, ob das, also ich hab das auch schon oft auf Veranstaltungen gesehen, auch ehrlicherweise selber schon mal genutzt, ob das mehr so was ist, so was aus der Rechtsabteilung kommt so.",{"text":24390,"start":11863,"end":11977},"Bitte, ihr steht vor vielen Leuten und bevor ihr hier irgendwie aufs Skript geht und irgendwas verratet, was vielleicht nicht gesagt werden soll oder vielleicht 'n Witz macht, der falsch interpretiert werden könnte oder so, haltet euch bitte einfach genau an diese Worte, ja.",{"text":24392,"start":11979,"end":12014},"Oder ob das wirklich mehr so für die Leute ist im Sinne von, okay, ja?",{"text":24394,"start":12014,"end":12136},"Es sind ja manchmal auch jetzt nicht irgendwie nur Deffrey Leute da, sondern manchmal auch ganz in Anführungszeichen normale Engineers, die halt das einfach vielleicht auch nicht gewohnt sind, irgendwie auf der Bühne zu stehen und vor Tausenden Leuten oder so zu sprechen, für die das halt wirklich hilfreich sein kann, ja?",{"text":24396,"start":12139,"end":12191},"Keine Ahnung, was da das stärkere Argument irgendwie ist, wo das herkommt, aber ja, manchmal ist es schon sehr auffällig.",171,{"sentences":24399,"speaker":126,"num_words":24410,"start":12194,"end":12449},[24400,24402,24404,24406,24408],{"text":24401,"start":12194,"end":12248},"Ja, na ja, ich glaube, weißt Du aber den ganz Großen, dann ist natürlich, geht's darum, dass jedes Wort sitzt.",{"text":24403,"start":12248,"end":12298},"Ich meine, da wird jedes Wort dreimal umgedreht, welche Formulierung jetzt genau genutzt wird und wie und so weiter.",{"text":24405,"start":12298,"end":12361},"Weiß nicht, ob das dann nur die Rechtsabteilung ist oder auch die Marketingabteilung, die sicherstellen möchte, dass genau diese Message drüber gebracht wird.",{"text":24407,"start":12361,"end":12399},"Aber in der Regel ist auch je kleiner die Session, desto irrelevanter wird das.",{"text":24409,"start":12399,"end":12449},"Also gehe mal davon aus, dass nicht jede jede der der der Sessions geskriptet war und mit Teleprom verlief.",95,{"sentences":24412,"speaker":126,"num_words":23781,"start":12453,"end":12474},[24413,24414,24416],{"text":670,"start":12453,"end":12454},{"text":24415,"start":12457,"end":12464},"Glaube ich okay.",{"text":24417,"start":12464,"end":12474},"Nicht klar normal.",{"sentences":24419,"speaker":563,"num_words":23904,"start":12477,"end":12753},[24420,24422,24424,24426,24428],{"text":24421,"start":12477,"end":12517},"Gerade bei den kleineren Sessions im Chrome Zelt zum Beispiel, das waren einfach normale Talks.",{"text":24423,"start":12520,"end":12578},"Ich weiß es, ich nehm mal an, die waren auch gescriptet, aber da war ganz sicher nicht jedes Wort vom Teleprompter abgelesen.",{"text":24425,"start":12582,"end":12613},"Und ich denk grad bei den großen Keynotes, es hat es ist beides.",{"text":24427,"start":12613,"end":12677},"Sicher die Rechtsabteilung möchte sicherstellen, dass die Worte sauber gewählt sind und dann nicht 'n vielleicht noch dazwischenkommt, was dann anders ausgelegt werden könnte.",{"text":24429,"start":12681,"end":12753},"Zudem hast Du halt die Visuals mit den Worten so krass abgestimmt, dass ich das Gefühl hab, dass es wie alles alles so passieren muss wie geplant.",{"sentences":24431,"speaker":563,"num_words":57,"start":12757,"end":12979},[24432,24434],{"text":24433,"start":12757,"end":12944},"Und dann, das merke ich auch bei mir immer wieder, dass Du einen Thema mit wenigen Worten aufn Punkt bringen kannst, ist halt da da hilft, wenn man sich das wie vorher überlegt hat und genau die Formulierungen hat und nicht einfach irgend 'n Stottern kommt und dann noch mal zurückgeht und denkt, ah, vielleicht könnte ich's noch so erklären, sondern wirklich so einfach den einen Satz zu dem Thema einfach runter rattern kann, so.",{"text":24435,"start":12946,"end":12979},"Natürlich, das ist 'n Zusammenspiel aus Design, Marketing und Legal.",{"sentences":24437,"speaker":146,"num_words":23620,"start":12983,"end":12990},[24438],{"text":24439,"start":12983,"end":12990},"Ja, wahrscheinlich, wahrscheinlich.",{"sentences":24441,"speaker":126,"num_words":23758,"start":12993,"end":13074},[24442,24444],{"text":24443,"start":12993,"end":13028},"Ist denn für dich der Networking Aspekt, den Du jetzt gerade genannt hast?",{"text":24445,"start":13033,"end":13074},"Würdest Du sagen, das war der größte, Also deswegen bist Du hin und deswegen würdest Du auch wieder machen?",{"sentences":24447,"speaker":563,"num_words":23629,"start":13077,"end":13183},[24448,24449,24451,24453,24454],{"text":24329,"start":13077,"end":13087},{"text":24450,"start":13089,"end":13105},"Ich mein, die Sessions sind ja alle online.",{"text":24452,"start":13105,"end":13149},"Wenn's jetzt nur drum gehen würde, die Sessions anzugucken, dann kann ich's auch von zu Hause aus machen.",{"text":3765,"start":13151,"end":13152},{"text":24455,"start":13155,"end":13183},"Aber Networking ist halt das Es ist ja bei jeder Konferenz so.",{"sentences":24457,"speaker":563,"num_words":24462,"start":13183,"end":13463},[24458,24460],{"text":24459,"start":13183,"end":13272},"Der Hallway Track ist der, der unter Umständen den meisten Mehrwert bietet oder weswegen Leute überhaupt an eine Konferenz gehen und das ist auf jeden Fall auch bei der Google IO der Fall.",{"text":24461,"start":13274,"end":13463},"Ja, also grad, ich meine, ich komme ja viel, gerade in Europa bin ich ja viel unterwegs auf Konferenzen und lern viele Leute kennen und reden mit vielen Leuten, aber es sind halt dann noch mal Leute, die ich jetzt in Europa noch nie getroffen hätte oder vielleicht mal per Zufall, aber das sind halt an an einem Ort alle, die irgendwie was mit mit Jamma oder mit mit Chrome oder so, irgendwas zu tun haben.",109,{"sentences":24464,"speaker":146,"num_words":563,"start":13465,"end":13469},[24465],{"text":24466,"start":13465,"end":13469},"Das ist",{"sentences":24468,"speaker":563,"num_words":23697,"start":13469,"end":13498},[24469],{"text":24470,"start":13469,"end":13498},"auf jeden Fall der Hauptgrund, wieso ihr wieder gehen würde.",{"sentences":24472,"speaker":126,"num_words":24254,"start":13501,"end":13719},[24473,24475,24477],{"text":24474,"start":13501,"end":13599},"Und hat es irgendwie eine Art von, keine Ahnung, so Checkliste abgehakt, da soll man immer da sein, also wie fürs die Apple jünger irgendwie die WWDC ist, dass man sagt, oh, irgendwann will man nur da gewesen sein.",{"text":24476,"start":13599,"end":13659},"Also jetzt glaube ich kleiner geringer geworden, seitdem das einfach nur noch gescriptete Videos sind und vor Ort nicht mehr so wahnsinnig viel passiert.",{"text":24478,"start":13662,"end":13719},"Aber war es trotzdem auch so ein Aha Moment so die Bühne dann mal zu sehen, die Du sonst immer nur im Livestream gesehen hast?",{"sentences":24480,"speaker":563,"num_words":23942,"start":13722,"end":13959},[24481,24483,24485,24487,24489],{"text":24482,"start":13722,"end":13726},"Ja voll.",{"text":24484,"start":13730,"end":13733},"Also ja.",{"text":24486,"start":13735,"end":13745},"Ich meine, ich kann das.",{"text":24488,"start":13745,"end":13830},"Es ist ja immer was anderes, wenn Du dort bist und son bisschen die die die ganze So ein bisschen, weißt Du, wo ist was und wie sieht die Bühne überhaupt dann aus?",{"text":24490,"start":13830,"end":13959},"Nicht nur im Fernsehen, sondern ja, ich meine, Du kannst zum Beispiel hinter der Bühne ist 'n großer son son Hügel, son Hang mit mit Rasen und das geht relativ weit hoch und Du kannst auch gut einfach auf dem Rasen setzen, wenn das nicht so heiß gewesen wäre.",{"sentences":24492,"speaker":563,"num_words":222,"start":13962,"end":13993},[24493],{"text":24494,"start":13962,"end":13993},"Könnte immer noch gut aufm Rasen sitzen und könnte von dort die Keynote verfolgen.",{"sentences":24496,"speaker":126,"num_words":126,"start":13996,"end":13997},[24497],{"text":674,"start":13996,"end":13997},{"sentences":24499,"speaker":563,"num_words":24510,"start":13997,"end":14162},[24500,24502,24504,24506,24508],{"text":24501,"start":13997,"end":14053},"sind alles Sachen, die siehst Du nicht, wenn Du es nur online verfolgst und es war schon cool, das mal gesehen zu haben.",{"text":24503,"start":14053,"end":14096},"Aber ich finde jetzt Checkliste abhaken wär jetzt so, okay, habe ich gemacht, muss ich nicht mehr machen.",{"text":24505,"start":14096,"end":14111},"Und das war's jetzt für mich nicht.",{"text":24507,"start":14111,"end":14137},"Es war so wie, war cool, habe ich's mal gemacht.",{"text":24509,"start":14137,"end":14162},"Also ja, Checkliste ja, aber ich würde auch wieder gehen.",68,{"sentences":24512,"speaker":563,"num_words":23836,"start":14162,"end":14203},[24513],{"text":24514,"start":14162,"end":14203},"Also es ist jetzt nicht so, dass es nur dafür, dass ich's mal dort gewesen war, ist.",{"sentences":24516,"speaker":146,"num_words":24525,"start":14206,"end":14511},[24517,24519,24521,24523],{"text":24518,"start":14206,"end":14304},"Wir haben in der Folge über die Google Cloud Next son bisschen bemängelt, dass also es ist ja deutlich größere Veranstaltungen, irgendwie über 30, 35000 Leute, nicht im im Valley, sondern in in Las Vegas.",{"text":24520,"start":14307,"end":14389},"Und haben son bisschen bemängelt, das was so bis als Gefühl fehlt, ist so dieses zu Gast bei Google zu sein, weil am Ende bist Du halt in sonem Casinohotel in der Messehalle.",{"text":24522,"start":14393,"end":14421},"Auch viel coole Sachen, aber es fühlt sich halt nicht so an, ja.",{"text":24524,"start":14423,"end":14511},"Als Du jetzt da warst, hattest Du das Gefühl, bei Google quasi zu sein oder war es immer noch mehr so, na ja, ich bin hier und Google halt irgendwie auch, aber wir treffen uns halt irgendwie auf diesem Gelände?",121,{"sentences":24527,"speaker":563,"num_words":23647,"start":14514,"end":14532},[24528],{"text":24529,"start":14514,"end":14532},"Gutes Frau, was meinst Du?",{"sentences":24531,"speaker":126,"num_words":126,"start":14535,"end":14536},[24532],{"text":670,"start":14535,"end":14536},{"sentences":24534,"speaker":563,"num_words":24545,"start":14540,"end":14887},[24535,24537,24539,24541,24543],{"text":24536,"start":14540,"end":14646},"Ich wüsste jetzt nicht, was sie anders machen müssten, damit sie's mehr danach anfühlen würde, weil Also, es klar, es ist 'n Es ist es ist nicht im Google Headquarter oder so, aber Du bist halt direkt neben diesem großen Visitor Center.",{"text":24538,"start":14649,"end":14678},"Was auch schon spannend ist, mal auch dort Missing durch durchzulaufen.",{"text":24540,"start":14682,"end":14773},"Es hat alles mega Google Vibes, also ist jetzt nicht eben, ich denk, das Problem jetzt, ich weiß noch nicht an der an der Cloudnext, aber dort ist ja wirklich das Problem, Du bist in 'nem Hotel.",{"text":24542,"start":14773,"end":14814},"Du bist irgendwo in 'nem in 'nem Fremden Gebiet, was nichts gegen Google zu tun hatte.",{"text":24544,"start":14817,"end":14887},"Während dem Du jetzt bei diesem Shorline Areal Es ist im, sagen wir mal, neutrales Areal, was dann von Google in einen Google Areal umgewandelt wird.",132,{"sentences":24547,"speaker":563,"num_words":24552,"start":14887,"end":14969},[24548,24550],{"text":24549,"start":14887,"end":14926},"Also doch, man hat auf jeden Fall das Gefühl, hey, das man ist bei Google.",{"text":24551,"start":14928,"end":14969},"Nicht im Office, aber ist auch schwierig für 7000 Leute, aber man das Branding ist da.",31,{"sentences":24554,"speaker":146,"num_words":24565,"start":14972,"end":15161},[24555,24557,24559,24561,24563],{"text":24556,"start":14972,"end":14976},"Ja, okay.",{"text":24558,"start":14976,"end":14997},"Das ist doch schon mal schon mal viel wert.",{"text":24560,"start":15000,"end":15067},"Jetzt hast Du eben schon gesagt, es ist auf alle Fälle son son List item für dich, aber abgehakt ist es nicht, weil Du würdest noch mal hingehen.",{"text":24562,"start":15070,"end":15140},"Das nimmt ja son bisschen schon die Antwort vorweg auf, kann man das empfehlen oder das hatte ich zumindest nicht komplett verschreckt, die Teilnahme da, ja.",{"text":24564,"start":15144,"end":15161},"Wem würdest Du das denn da empfehlen?",72,{"sentences":24567,"speaker":146,"num_words":23972,"start":15161,"end":15229},[24568],{"text":24569,"start":15161,"end":15229},"Also auch wenn jetzt nicht jeder dahin kann, weil man 'n Invite braucht oder so, aber für wen ist es denn überhaupt am Ende des Tages relevant?",{"sentences":24571,"speaker":563,"num_words":24581,"start":15232,"end":15504},[24572,24574,24576,24578,24579],{"text":24573,"start":15232,"end":15315},"Ich ich hab's Gefühl, wenn man mit 1 von diesen Google Produkten arbeitet, also jetzt die Schwerpunkte waren ja AI, Android, Chrome, Cloud, genau, Dann macht's auf jeden Fall Sinn.",{"text":24575,"start":15315,"end":15366},"Also, wenn man eine Einladung bekommt und mal die Möglichkeit bekommt, dorthin zu gehen, ich würd's jedem empfehlen, das zu machen.",{"text":24577,"start":15368,"end":15429},"Wenn Du jetzt nicht zu tief im im Google Ökosystem drin bist, dann, weiß ich nicht, bringst Du glaube ich nicht so viel.",{"text":3765,"start":15431,"end":15432},{"text":24580,"start":15435,"end":15504},"Aber da hast Du allein durch die Einladung hast Du schon eine Art Vorselektionierung, weil eben bei mir war es jetzt jedes Jahr immer wegen diesem Web AI.",103,{"sentences":24583,"speaker":563,"num_words":24338,"start":15504,"end":15746},[24584,24586],{"text":24585,"start":15504,"end":15581},"Da hat Google, weil dieses Jahr nicht so präsent, aber sie haben immer mal wieder eine eine Web Run Time für AI Modelle gehabt oder Milliliter Modelle gehabt.",{"text":24587,"start":15585,"end":15746},"Und die war jetzt dieses Jahr nicht so präsent, aber es war immer auch da und dadurch habe ich auch die Einladung bekommen und weil da sowieso im Chrome Umfeld sehr viel mit mit AI passiert, Hat auf jeden Fall Sinn gemacht und wie gesagt, also wenn man in 1 von diesen Technologien tief drin ist, dann muss auf jeden Fall Sinn mal hinzugehen und die Leute kennenzulernen.",{"sentences":24589,"speaker":126,"num_words":24015,"start":15749,"end":15948},[24590,24592,24594],{"text":24591,"start":15749,"end":15890},"Es gibt ja, da habe ich eben, vielleicht hast Du das auch verwechselt, Jan, gibt ja auch die Google I o Connect Events, was ja so ein bisschen ist, okay wie oder wo wo Google praktisch so Satellite Events macht in den verschiedenen Märkten noch, diese Experience dann 'n bisschen näherzubringen.",{"text":24593,"start":15894,"end":15917},"Ich hatte gerade parallel noch mal in mein Handy geguckt.",{"text":24595,"start":15920,"end":15948},"Ich bin nämlich gar nicht sicher, wie das dieses Jahr, ob das schon.",{"sentences":24597,"speaker":563,"num_words":24601,"start":15950,"end":15979},[24598,24600],{"text":24599,"start":15950,"end":15973},"Ich glaube in Berlin ist 1 Anfang Juni.",{"text":15981,"start":15978,"end":15979},9,{"sentences":24603,"speaker":126,"num_words":24614,"start":15983,"end":16169},[24604,24606,24608,24610,24612],{"text":24605,"start":15983,"end":16019},"Ja, Juli, dritter Juli, dritter Juli, wünsche ich das ja richtig sehen.",{"text":24607,"start":16023,"end":16089},"Genau also ich war die letzten beiden Jahre war ich auf der war ich bei der Google AEOConnect und es hörte sich erstmal sehr ähnlich an.",{"text":24609,"start":16089,"end":16103},"Also Du hast eine coole Location.",{"text":24611,"start":16107,"end":16121},"Es war auch Sommer und heiß.",{"text":24613,"start":16124,"end":16169},"Du hattest unterschiedliche Zelte, die diese 4 Tracks waren den unterschiedlichen Bereichen, die es von Google gibt.",67,{"sentences":24616,"speaker":126,"num_words":23913,"start":16169,"end":16434},[24617,24619,24621,24623,24625],{"text":24618,"start":16169,"end":16188},"Es hat ein unfassbar starkes Google Branding.",{"text":24620,"start":16191,"end":16284},"Also es gibt glaube ich wenige, für mich immer so die der Goldstandard, was irgendwie Eventorganisation angeht, Egal ob Catering oder ja, all das was Du auch gesagt hast, Einlasskontrolle und so.",{"text":24622,"start":16284,"end":16303},"Das haben sie einfach wirklich sehr sehr gut drauf.",{"text":24624,"start":16306,"end":16342},"Und eben dort auch viele Leute, die sie einfliegen, ne für die unterschiedlichen Themen.",{"text":24626,"start":16342,"end":16434},"Wahrscheinlich nicht so ganz in krass wie wie es dann an der Haupt Google iOS ist, aber auch dort eben den engen Zugang zu allen wirklich Leuten, die wirklich an den an den Produkten arbeiten.",{"sentences":24628,"speaker":126,"num_words":24633,"start":16437,"end":16503},[24629,24631],{"text":24630,"start":16437,"end":16465},"Genau, das gibt's dann eben für den europäischen Markt in Berlin.",{"text":24632,"start":16465,"end":16503},"Da gibt's, glaube ich, noch einen in Asien und eine in irgendwo anders.",24,{"sentences":24635,"speaker":563,"num_words":23744,"start":16506,"end":16522},[24636],{"text":24637,"start":16506,"end":16522},"Vielleicht an der Ostküste noch was?",{"sentences":24639,"speaker":126,"num_words":24601,"start":16525,"end":16554},[24640,24641],{"text":23848,"start":16525,"end":16529},{"text":24642,"start":16529,"end":16554},"Nur New York, New York, oder Washington",{"sentences":24644,"speaker":146,"num_words":23724,"start":16554,"end":16567},[24645,24647],{"text":24646,"start":16554,"end":16562},"oder so.",{"text":23848,"start":16564,"end":16567},{"sentences":24649,"speaker":563,"num_words":24658,"start":16570,"end":16775},[24650,24651,24653,24655,24656],{"text":670,"start":16570,"end":16571},{"text":24652,"start":16575,"end":16619},"Ich war leider noch nie an der Connect, die in Berlin ist, hat sicher schon das dritte Jahr, glaube ich.",{"text":24654,"start":16622,"end":16707},"Und ich glaube, vor vor Corona war die ganze Google IO auch noch son bisschen mehr der Community Aspekt, weil ich weiß, ich bin ja noch Teil von diesem Google Liberable Expert Programm.",{"text":3765,"start":16707,"end":16710},{"text":24657,"start":16713,"end":16775},"Und ich meinte, die, die schon länger dabei sind, haben gesagt, dass das früher auch son ziemlich son Meeting war für die ganzen GDIs.",79,{"sentences":24660,"speaker":563,"num_words":24545,"start":16779,"end":17111},[24661,24663,24665,24667,24669],{"text":24662,"start":16779,"end":16901},"Und das haben sie nach Corona haben sie das komplett verkleinert, das heißt, als Gedie bekommst Du nicht automatisch eine Einladung, geschweige denken, dass da irgendwie eine Der Flug und die Reise gezahlt würde, aber Du hast auf jeden Fall Travel Support für die Connect Events.",{"text":24664,"start":16904,"end":16970},"Wenn Du als GDD e irgendwo in einen anderen lokalen Io Connect Event gehen möchtest, dann kannst Du das und wird auch von von Google bezahlt.",{"text":24666,"start":16970,"end":17079},"Und ich glaub, das war so die Idee, dass man irgendwie sagt, wir haben nicht einen großen Event, wo die ganze Community zusammenkommt in San Francisco, sondern wir machen halt auf der ganzen Welt noch kleinere Events, wo sich halt die lokalen Communitys treffen können.",{"text":24668,"start":17079,"end":17095},"Und das sind dann die die Connect Events.",{"text":24670,"start":17097,"end":17111},"Aber inhaltlich ist es ziemlich das Gleiche.",{"sentences":24672,"speaker":563,"num_words":24033,"start":17111,"end":17227},[24673],{"text":24674,"start":17111,"end":17227},"Ich glaube, das sind die gleichen Booth und von den Googlern, weiß ich jetzt nicht, ich denke jetzt nicht an jedem Io Connect Event sind Ist das ganze Team da, aber auf jeden Fall sind aus dem Devirrell Team kommen auf jeden Fall viele.",{"sentences":24676,"speaker":146,"num_words":23884,"start":17230,"end":17364},[24677,24678,24680,24682],{"text":670,"start":17230,"end":17231},{"text":24679,"start":17231,"end":17272},"Dann, Dennis, lass uns doch noch einen Satz irgendwie darauf verwenden, Google io Connect.",{"text":24681,"start":17276,"end":17325},"Wenn ich mich vorher schon mit der Google io beschäftigt habe, wie viel Neues höre ich denn dann noch auf der Connect?",{"text":24683,"start":17325,"end":17364},"Wahrscheinlich, also heben Sie sich sowas auf oder ist das more of the same?",{"sentences":24685,"speaker":126,"num_words":24696,"start":17368,"end":17777},[24686,24688,24690,24692,24694],{"text":24687,"start":17368,"end":17525},"Sie versuchen schon so 2, 3 Kleinigkeiten noch mal mitzubringen, die das 'n bisschen abfrischen, aber sie gehen aber schon eher auch da, also in den Vorbereitungsmaterialien oder Vorbreitungsmaterial in den in den in der Kommunikation, die Du vorher bekommen hast, war schon so, hey, guck dir mal zumindest mal die Keynotes und die wichtigen Sachen von der Google IO an.",{"text":24689,"start":17525,"end":17615},"Also sie wollen es schon nicht als es ist genau der gleiche Inhalt und hier heißt sie nochmal, sondern Google IO ist die Basis und wir gehen jetzt nochmal ein bisschen spezieller in ein paar Themen rein.",{"text":24691,"start":17615,"end":17636},"Also das ist schon so ein bisschen der Anspruch.",{"text":24693,"start":17639,"end":17696},"Ich glaube jetzt die ganz großen Announces waren natürlich irgendwie trotzdem nicht da und das ist aber natürlich immer son Timing Geschirr, ne.",{"text":24695,"start":17696,"end":17777},"Ich meine, wenn es zufällig, keine Ahnung, Gemmalight 3 5 in die Woche fällt, wo sie sowieso releasen wollen, dann nehmen sie vielleicht auch so eine Bühne dann gerne nochmal mit.",161,{"sentences":24698,"speaker":126,"num_words":23955,"start":17780,"end":17886},[24699,24701,24703],{"text":24700,"start":17780,"end":17792},"Und und enaucen das dann.",{"text":24702,"start":17792,"end":17862},"Ich glaub zum Beispiel Jamma 3, wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, war Thema bei der Google io Connect in Berlin und wurde mehr oder weniger zeitgleich released.",{"text":24704,"start":17867,"end":17886},"Kann's ungefähr sein, Nikoko kritisch.",{"sentences":24706,"speaker":563,"num_words":23697,"start":17889,"end":17911},[24707],{"text":24708,"start":17889,"end":17911},"Kann kann gut sein, ich weiß die Daten jetzt nicht",{"sentences":24710,"speaker":126,"num_words":563,"start":17911,"end":17916},[24711],{"text":24712,"start":17911,"end":17916},"mehr so.",{"sentences":24714,"speaker":146,"num_words":23620,"start":17916,"end":17924},[24715],{"text":24716,"start":17916,"end":17924},"Nicht mehr so.",{"sentences":24718,"speaker":563,"num_words":126,"start":17924,"end":17927},[24719],{"text":670,"start":17924,"end":17927},{"sentences":24721,"speaker":126,"num_words":23620,"start":17931,"end":17938},[24722,24724],{"text":24723,"start":17931,"end":17936},"Aber ja.",{"text":1362,"start":17936,"end":17938},{"sentences":24726,"speaker":146,"num_words":24733,"start":17941,"end":18218},[24727,24729,24731],{"text":24728,"start":17941,"end":18059},"Wär's ja spannend zu sehen, ob sie quasi vom Produktionsvorlauf quasi, ob sie son bisschen Input von der großen IO quasi mitnehmen und schauen euch immer, was hat die Leute interessiert, wo müssen wir vielleicht auch noch mal Messaging nachschärfen oder so was, ne.",{"text":24730,"start":18059,"end":18175},"Und das dann quasi da noch mal detaillierter anbieten oder ob sie sowieso so oder so viel Vorlaufzeit haben, dass bis die io in Mountain View rum ist, die io connects schon alle soweit in der Vorbereitung sind, dass das dann gar nicht mehr mit einfließen kann.",{"text":24732,"start":18175,"end":18218},"Falls Du noch mal auf die io connect gehst, dieses Jahr, das kannst Du ja mal nachfragen.",108,{"sentences":24735,"speaker":126,"num_words":23657,"start":18221,"end":18407},[24736,24738,24740,24742,24744],{"text":24737,"start":18221,"end":18230},"Ich bin super verwirrt.",{"text":24739,"start":18230,"end":18277},"Ich ich sehe gerade, findet ihr irgendwas, ich bin ja jetzt nur am Handy, findet ihr irgendwas online?",{"text":24741,"start":18281,"end":18319},"Ich hab irgendwie, ich hab im April, ich bin nicht multitaskingfähig genug für so was.",{"text":24743,"start":18319,"end":18375},"Ich hab im April eine E-Mail, also wenn ich mein E-Mail-Programm jetzt gerade nicht falsch verstehe, hab ich mich registriert.",{"text":24745,"start":18379,"end":18407},"Und zwar würde sie stattfinden am fünfundzwanzigsten Juni und zwar in Berlin.",{"sentences":24747,"speaker":126,"num_words":24349,"start":18409,"end":18574},[24748,24750,24752,24754,24756],{"text":24749,"start":18409,"end":18428},"Also ich hab eine ich hab eine Einladung bekommen.",{"text":24751,"start":18428,"end":18509},"Und wenn ich da jetzt auf den Link klicke, das ist das, wenn ich mich auch meine, dann ist tatsächlich auch schon son bisschen, dass dort steht, hey, from Google I o.",{"text":24753,"start":18509,"end":18529},"Also das ist so der der Startpunkt praktisch.",{"text":24755,"start":18533,"end":18570},"Und dann guck mal, was es noch auf der auf der Session Agenda noch weitergibt.",{"text":670,"start":18573,"end":18574},{"sentences":24758,"speaker":126,"num_words":58,"start":18577,"end":18819},[24759,24761,24763,24765],{"text":24760,"start":18577,"end":18633},"Für mich ist es halt so, ich glaube jetzt für den einen Tag würde ich nicht unbedingt nach Berlin fahren zu Google Air Connect.",{"text":24762,"start":18635,"end":18689},"Ich hatte das in den letzten Jahren verbunden ja mit diesem Google Devapaladvisory Report, was am Tag vorher auch stattgefunden hat.",{"text":24764,"start":18691,"end":18764},"Aus der Gruppe habe ich jetzt dieses Jahr noch nichts gehört, aber ich glaube deswegen hatte ich mich schon mal registriert, wenn das wieder zusammenfällt, ich da dann auch hingehen kann.",{"text":24766,"start":18767,"end":18819},"Ja, weil für son Zweitages Event war es dann okay, aber für einen Tag ist wahrscheinlich für mich die andere Reise ein bisschen weiter.",{"sentences":24768,"speaker":563,"num_words":752,"start":18821,"end":18983},[24769,24771,24773,24775,24776],{"text":24770,"start":18821,"end":18876},"Also ich glaube, Sie haben mir gar nicht so viel Content, dass Sie an jeder Io Connect was komplett Neues noch releasen könnten.",{"text":24772,"start":18880,"end":18917},"Und ich fand jetzt auch 'n paar Sachen waren sehr early Stage, jetzt gerade die Brillen.",{"text":24774,"start":18917,"end":18974},"Ich meine, wenn man's jetzt ankündigt, dass eventuell im Oktober dann die Ersten in den USA verschifft werden, ist halt so.",{"text":670,"start":18974,"end":18976},{"text":24777,"start":18979,"end":18983},"Also, ja.",{"sentences":24779,"speaker":563,"num_words":696,"start":18983,"end":19124},[24780,24782,24784,24786,24787],{"text":24781,"start":18983,"end":19038},"Ist ist relativ früh, dass man das announcen möchte und ich denk, dann dann müssten sie ja jetzt noch weiter nach vorne was announcen.",{"text":24783,"start":19042,"end":19048},"Ich weiß nicht.",{"text":24785,"start":19048,"end":19078},"Ich finde auch die Cloud Next und die Google I o relativ nah zusammen.",{"text":3765,"start":19080,"end":19081},{"text":24788,"start":19084,"end":19124},"Und es wurde auch für Google dann schwierig, sich zu überlegen, ja, wo möchte man was announcen?",{"sentences":24790,"speaker":563,"num_words":24281,"start":19124,"end":19201},[24791],{"text":24792,"start":19124,"end":19201},"Es würde viel mehr Sinn machen, wenn sie im Frühling 1 von beiden machen und dann im Herbst vielleicht noch eine, ja der, ah, ich hab's grad vergessen, Cloud Next.",{"sentences":24794,"speaker":146,"num_words":24801,"start":19205,"end":19473},[24795,24797,24799],{"text":24796,"start":19205,"end":19276},"Oder Ja, die Audience ist halt schon schon unterschiedlich, aber ich glaub trotzdem wär's auch, wie Du sagst, ne, trotzdem wär's besser, das son bisschen aufzurennen.",{"text":24798,"start":19276,"end":19452},"Allein aus medialer Sicht für sie ist halt mehr Aufmerksamkeit in der Summe, wenn Du's son bisschen weiterstrecken kannst, als wenn es jetzt innerhalb von, ich glaub, sind jetzt 6 Wochen oder so gewesen, ja, wo da halt beide Events stattgefunden haben und auch wenn das eine jetzt irgendwie mehr für Infrastruktur und bla und das andere mehr für, ich sag mal, Entwicklerendkunden sozusagen vielleicht gemacht ist, ja.",{"text":24800,"start":19455,"end":19473},"Ja, könnte man könnte man noch besser teilen.",102,{"sentences":24803,"speaker":126,"num_words":57,"start":19476,"end":19700},[24804,24806,24808,24810,24812],{"text":24805,"start":19476,"end":19494},"Genau, aber zu Google Eye Connect vielleicht noch mal.",{"text":24807,"start":19494,"end":19529},"Ich glaube, das ist ein kostenloses Event, zu dem man sich anmelden darf.",{"text":24809,"start":19529,"end":19646},"Also es gibt eine Waitlist und unter anderem meine ich, dass Student innen immer relativ stark gefördert wurden, dass sie einfach dahin kommen können, dann wie Du schon gesagt hast, diese ganzen Google Communities, Developerer Experts Gruppen, die sich da auch treffen.",{"text":24811,"start":19650,"end":19668},"Und das fand ich zumindest auch immer ganz gut.",{"text":24813,"start":19668,"end":19700},"Weil ich hab da schon relativ viele Kontakte und Einblicke so bekommen.",{"sentences":24815,"speaker":126,"num_words":23751,"start":19700,"end":19726},[24816,24818],{"text":24817,"start":19700,"end":19722},"Also für mich war Netzwerken da auch ein großes Ding.",{"text":670,"start":19725,"end":19726},{"sentences":24820,"speaker":563,"num_words":24281,"start":19729,"end":19803},[24821,24823,24825],{"text":24822,"start":19729,"end":19747},"Und ich glaub, die sind auch kostenlos, oder?",{"text":24824,"start":19747,"end":19769},"Es gibt keine Möglichkeit, ein Ticket zu kaufen.",{"text":24826,"start":19769,"end":19803},"Das wär auch so, entweder man geht eingeladen oder man kommt auf die Waitlist.",{"sentences":24828,"speaker":126,"num_words":23819,"start":19807,"end":19887},[24829,24830,24831,24833],{"text":670,"start":19807,"end":19808},{"text":1362,"start":19808,"end":19811},{"text":24832,"start":19811,"end":19853},"Aber da kannst Du dich zumindest, ich weiß nicht, ob das bei der Google ja auch so ist.",{"text":24834,"start":19853,"end":19887},"Du kannst dich aktiv praktisch bewerben und dich auf die Weltliste setzen lassen.",{"sentences":24836,"speaker":146,"num_words":23776,"start":19887,"end":19928},[24837,24839],{"text":24838,"start":19887,"end":19923},"Ja, Mensch, da musst Du die Programmierer doch auch mal irgendwie mehr bewerben.",{"text":24840,"start":19923,"end":19928},"Ja, ja.",{"sentences":24842,"speaker":126,"num_words":24849,"start":19930,"end":20044},[24843,24845,24847],{"text":24844,"start":19930,"end":19963},"Wie gesagt, ich bin registriert, also falls Du Wir könnten, ich könnte da schon hin.",{"text":24846,"start":19963,"end":20003},"Aber wie gesagt, ich ich weiß noch nicht sicher, ob die ob dieses andere Event gleichzeitig stattfindet.",{"text":24848,"start":20007,"end":20044},"Aber das ist ja auch für unsere Hörer ja nicht so relevant, was ich da mache.",48,{"sentences":24851,"speaker":146,"num_words":23859,"start":20048,"end":20093},[24852,24854,24856],{"text":24853,"start":20048,"end":20057},"Außer, dass das gibt.",{"text":24855,"start":20057,"end":20091},"Vielleicht für die in Berlin, die wollen sich vielleicht auch mal treffen, keine Ahnung.",{"text":670,"start":20091,"end":20093},{"sentences":24858,"speaker":563,"num_words":23781,"start":20095,"end":20115},[24859,24860,24862],{"text":20098,"start":20095,"end":20096},{"text":24861,"start":20096,"end":20112},"Mit dem Stammtisch oder sowas.",{"text":20098,"start":20114,"end":20115},{"sentences":24864,"speaker":146,"num_words":24131,"start":20115,"end":20156},[24865,24867],{"text":24866,"start":20115,"end":20138},"Gut, ich hab hier meine Liste fast komplett abgearbeitet.",{"text":24868,"start":20141,"end":20156},"Dennis, hast Du noch Fragen an Nico?",{"sentences":24870,"speaker":126,"num_words":24601,"start":20160,"end":20181},[24871],{"text":24872,"start":20160,"end":20181},"Nee, aber wer wollte gerade was sagen, der Nico?",{"sentences":24874,"speaker":563,"num_words":23647,"start":20183,"end":20194},[24875],{"text":24876,"start":20183,"end":20194},"Nee, ich hab nur geatmet.",{"sentences":24878,"speaker":126,"num_words":126,"start":20197,"end":20198},[24879],{"text":3739,"start":20197,"end":20198},{"sentences":24881,"speaker":563,"num_words":24601,"start":20198,"end":20221},[24882],{"text":24883,"start":20198,"end":20221},"muss ich muss ich ab und zu auch falsch",{"sentences":24885,"speaker":146,"num_words":24325,"start":20224,"end":20388},[24886,24888,24890,24892,24894],{"text":24887,"start":20224,"end":20240},"seid ihr seid ihr gestattet hier.",{"text":24889,"start":20240,"end":20327},"Ich hab noch eine Frage und die Hörerin da draußen werden sich jetzt denken, wieso fragt ihr das und wenn ihr die nächste Folge mit Nico gehört habt, werdet ihr wissen, warum ich das frag.",{"text":24891,"start":20330,"end":20350},"Nico, Du bist ja jetzt verreist, so Ja.",{"text":24893,"start":20352,"end":20361},"Nach Amerika, so.",{"text":24895,"start":20361,"end":20388},"Hast Du bestimmt auch son paar elektronische Geräte dabei 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